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Old 04-25-2015, 05:50 AM
 
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You remind me of a famous quote.

“IT IS BETTER TO REMAIN SILENT AND BE THOUGHT A FOOL THAN TO OPEN ONE'S MOUTH AND REMOVE ALL DOUBT.”

MARK TWAIN
Yes, you removed all doubt with your very first post. Congratulations and welcome to CD.

 
Old 04-25-2015, 06:45 AM
 
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Yes, you removed all doubt with your very first post. Congratulations and welcome to CD.
With a name like Morano, I have to wonder... could it possibly be everyone's favorite merchant of doubt?

 
Old 04-25-2015, 06:49 AM
 
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The Daily Mail? Looks like the trash tabloid got it wrong yet again. Not as ridiculously wrong as Limbaugh though:

Duke Researcher Denounces Rush Limbaugh's "Ridiculous" Distortion Of His Global Warming Study

Do these people ever READ the academic papers they misrepresent?
Is it as wearisome for you to type this knee-jerk drivel as it is for others to read it?

That being said, it is somewhat of a treat to see a post from you with only one of those, rather than two, or even all three.

More of a treat would be a measure of humility towards this subject by you, along with a sincere desire to be civil and tolerant towards other posters.

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Old 04-25-2015, 06:59 AM
 
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The Daily Mail is lying AGAIN.

The original article talks about a study that suggests warming is more moderate than the ABSOLUTE WORST CASE SCENARIO. A scenario that was NEVER considered likely and was reserved only for the most extreme cases.

Here's the original article:

https://nicholas.duke.edu/news/globa...st-case-models

In other words, the IPCC was right, and everything that we're seeing has been accurately predicted by the models.
Someone is clearly lying here - right through their teeth in fact. But it is not the climate scientists at Duke University, whose study the Daily Mail article is reporting on here.

Here is a better link to the article so people can read it easier, by the way:

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Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are down to ‘natural variability’, says study
  • Duke University study looked at 1,000 years of temperature records
  • It compared it to the most severe emissions scenarios by the IPCC
  • Found that natural variability can slow or speed the rate of warming
  • These 'climate wiggles' were not properly accounted for in IPCC report
 
Old 04-25-2015, 07:00 AM
 
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Someone is clearly lying here - right through their teeth in fact. But it is not the climate scientists at Duke University, whose study the Daily Mail article is reporting on here.

Here is a better link to the article so people can read it easier, by the way:
The climate scientists didn't lie.
The Daily Mail misrepresented their statements in service of their agenda.
They've done it before, and they'll do it again.
And when they do, we'll see yet another thread on city-data.
 
Old 04-25-2015, 07:02 AM
 
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The climate scientists didn't lie.
The Daily Mail misrepresented their statements in service of their agenda.
They've done it before, and they'll do it again.
And when they do, we'll see yet another thread on city-data.
It was not the climate scientists that lied and it was not the Daily Mail that lied. By the process of elimination, you are getting warmer though.
 
Old 04-25-2015, 07:09 AM
 
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It was not the climate scientists that lied and it was not the Daily Mail that lied. By the process of elimination, you are getting warmer though.
https://nicholas.duke.edu/news/globa...st-case-models

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Under the IPCC’s middle-of-the-road scenario, there was a 70 percent likelihood that at least one hiatus lasting 11 years or longer would occur between 1993 and 2050, Brown said. “That matches up well with what we’re seeing.”
The models predicted a 70 percent likelihood of a 'hiatus' of at least 11 years between 1993 and 2050.
Not only did they not lie, they were absolutely right.
 
Old 04-25-2015, 07:14 AM
 
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https://nicholas.duke.edu/news/globa...st-case-models

The models predicted a 70 percent likelihood of a 'hiatus' of at least 11 years between 1993 and 2050.
Not only did they not lie, they were absolutely right.
So are you now conceding that we are having a haitus or pause, and that the Earth has not been warming to any appreciable degree over the last 20 years?
 
Old 04-25-2015, 07:19 AM
 
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So are you now conceding that we are having a haitus or pause, and that the Earth has not been warming to any appreciable degree over the last 20 years?
I guess changing the topic beats admitting that you didn't actually read the original report or the article where the climatologist personally denounces Rush Limbaugh for distorting his findings IN THE SAME WAY THAT THE DAILY MAIL DID.

It has warmed, just not as rapidly... unless you're talking about the oceans.
It hasn't been 20 years, it has been 10-15.

It has also been explained:

The “Pause” in Global Warming Is Finally Explained | Observations, Scientific American Blog Network

I have never claimed anything to the contrary. What some people can't seem to understand is that it doesn't mean that global warming is a hoax, that the models are wrong, or that the planet is cooling.
 
Old 04-25-2015, 07:29 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Spatula City View Post
that the models are wrong
They don't seem to be right


https://twitter.com/Reportingclimat/...98769641574401



https://twitter.com/Reportingclimat/...71723185115137

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or that the planet is cooling.

Would a cooling planet be better for humanity?
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