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Old 05-15-2015, 01:41 PM
 
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What ???
Way off of my point, but pretty picture.
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Old 05-15-2015, 01:45 PM
 
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What ???
Funny thing is that a country that is so small that if you did not know they were on that map you would not be able to find them can be the root of some many issues for so many of the other countries. Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill, an expensive mole hill at that.
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Old 05-15-2015, 01:48 PM
 
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Funny thing is that a country that is so small that if you did not know they were on that map you would not be able to find them can be the root of some many issues for so many of the other countries. Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill, an expensive mole hill at that.
Unfortunately the U.S. continues to create problems for itself by dithering (Often disastrously) around in conflicts in that land which are unimportant to the U.S., wasting billions and getting Americans killed as a consequence of the unnecessary intervention.
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Old 05-15-2015, 01:54 PM
 
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The only thing holding it back is the vote of the United States on the Security Council.
If Obama says go, it's a go.
136 Nations Recognize A Palestinian State
Not everything in this life is dependent on the US. Large swathes of Europe including the Netherlands, Norway, Germany, France, Spain and Italy don't recognize the Palestinian state. Australia doesn't either.
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Old 05-15-2015, 01:54 PM
 
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Agreed-

I am a converted Catholic. The Catholics really do many good things for people and "walk the walk". Catholic Charities helps many poor people not only around the world, but in the US.
Meh...I was born into it, and don't buy what you're saying.


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Why wouldn't modern day Jews be entitled to the land that has long belong to Jews for thousands of years? European Jews are a minority in Israel so you want to try that again. It is quite funny how people keep trying to use the European angle when they are a minority in Israel.
They're entitled to it as long as they can hold and defend it.
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Old 05-15-2015, 01:57 PM
 
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They're entitled to it as long as they can hold and defend it.
It's been defended by Israelis since day 1.
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Old 05-15-2015, 01:57 PM
 
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Not everything in this life is dependent on the US. Large swathes of Europe including the Netherlands, Norway, Germany, France, Spain and Italy don't recognize the Palestinian state. Australia doesn't either.
In the UN the U.S. is due to the veto power the U.S. has on the UN Security council, since the U.S. (Along with Russia, China, UK, and France) are part of the Big Five. Even if all the other 14 members are in favor, if one of the big five vetoes the resolution it will not pass the Security Council. Although if the U.S. abstains, it is unknown what France, and the UK would do.
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Old 05-15-2015, 01:59 PM
 
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Not everything in this life is dependent on the US. Large swathes of Europe including the Netherlands, Norway, Germany, France, Spain and Italy don't recognize the Palestinian state. Australia doesn't either.
Yea Australia was one of the countries that voted against the UNSC resolution this past December with the US. The UK, along with Lithuania, Nigeria, Korea and Rwanda abstained from the vote
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Old 05-15-2015, 02:00 PM
 
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That hasn't been the problem. The problem is the lack of recognition of Israel's right to exist.
To be fair, Palestinians did recognize Israel's right to exist in the Oslo Accords of 1993 (third paragraph down in this Wikipedia article): State of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But they just didn't abide by the agreement to cease terrorist activities.
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Old 05-15-2015, 02:00 PM
 
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It's been defended by Israelis since day 1.
I don't know about all that, but as long as Israel can hold and defend the nation of Israel as a state, they have a right to it.

If in the morning another group can take it from them and hold it, they have a right to it.

Simple.
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