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You grew up with her and witnessed her day to day experiences? Wow, I didn't realize that we have citydata members that have this type of relationship with the first lady. Guess you learn something new everyday.
I also didn't realize that because someone is in a good place in life, that means that person never had a hard day or had racist encounters or had relatives, friends, or associates that had bad experiences that were discussed amongst them. I guess that's far from impossible, for people who make it big to not have bad days...
At least Oprah has a good story to tell. Michelle not so much.
At least Oprah has a good story to tell. Michelle not so much.
And Oprah has what to do with you indicating that Michelle never had a bad day? My question is, did you witness her day-to-day experiences, growing up, and is that how you know that she never had a bad day, or a struggle, or a racist experience? If you did no witness this, then how can you say that she never went through anything?
And Oprah has what to do with you indicating that Michelle never had a bad day? My question is, did you witness her day-to-day experiences, growing up, and is that how you know that she never had a bad day, or a struggle, or a racist experience? If you did no witness this, then how can you say that she never went through anything?
How can you argue that she didn't for the same reasons?
How can you argue that she didn't for the same reasons?
Except I didn't make that argument at all. I didn't say what kind of life Michelle had because I don't know. He made the statement that she's never had a bad day and I asked him how he knew this, and if he was there to see her day-to-day experiences to have that type of information. Because I'm honestly curious. I don't know know if Michelle struggled or not, or if she knows people who struggled, or if she's had racists experiences, or if she knows people that had racists experience and relayed them to her. I don't know because I wasn't there. Because of this I can't say with certainty the way he did that she's never had a bad day.
Why should anyone spend time to "enlighten" you? Who has ever heard of you? Yet here you are posting in Current Events.
Oh--I was not aware that people are using me or my personal opinion as a 'source' in order to make a point when initiating a thread in Current Events.
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You give opinion, nothing more nothing less. To demand that someone do the impossible, and convince you that a negative story about Michelle Obama belongs in "Current Events", or presumably they erred putting it here, is a fallacious argument and disingenuous.
Actually it is your logic that is fallacious and disingenuous.
Rachel was used as 'source' for the giddy proclamation that "Michelle is not fooling all blacks." One lone unknown person has an opinion, and that is cause for a massively hasty generalization? Very faulty logic.
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It's exactly the same sort of nonsensical logic that Michelle, yammered about in her speech.
What is extremely disingenuous is pretending to debate a point for intellectual reasons when it is merely an excuse, as all one really wants to do is make a condescendingly crass comment about the First Lady.
And of course 'nonsensical' is simply an opinion. Nothing more.
.... Because I'm honestly curious. I don't know know if Michelle struggled or not, or if she knows people who struggled, or if she's had racists experiences, or if she knows people that had racists experience and relayed them to her. I don't know because I wasn't there. Because of this I can't say with certainty the way he did that she's never had a bad day.
I'm thinking you are not going to get a definitive answer to this on this, an anonymous Internet forum. You should probably send Obama a letter if you really want to know.
Oh--I was not aware that people are using me or my personal opinion as a 'source' in order to make a point when initiating a thread in Current Events. Actually it is your logic that is fallacious and disingenuous. Rachel was used as 'source' for the giddy proclamation that "Michelle is not fooling all blacks." One lone unknown person has an opinion, and that is cause for a massively hasty generalization? Very faulty logic.What is extremely disingenuous is pretending to debate a point for intellectual reasons when it is merely an excuse, as all one really wants to do is make a condescendingly crass comment about the First Lady. And of course 'nonsensical' is simply an opinion. Nothing more.
Interesting prose but has nothing to do with the point at hand. That point is that you demand to know why this is in current events. There is no logic to this question as presumably this isn't your forum. Hence logically you ask the question for other reasons.
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