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Old 05-23-2015, 01:35 PM
 
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"Religion of Pieces," more like it. After they're through with you there will be one piece of you here, another one over there.....
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Old 05-23-2015, 01:46 PM
 
Location: USA
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All of Islam is radical. Read the Qur'an.
And that is the problem. When your religion's Prophet, who can do no wrong, was a Conqueror, a Torturer, a Slaver, and a child molester, almost anything can be justified, and is?

Are there Christian, Buddhist, Shintos, Hindus and others that have done similar things? Of course, look at Japan in WW2, Being mostly Shinto/Buddhist didn't stop them from the atrocities committed against the civilian populations of China and other countries at that time. Foolish Americans like to romanticize other cultures for some reason, and try to hold them up as benign. Is Mohammad flying on a winged Donkey, splitting the moon, or Moses parting the red sea really believed by religious people

Some of the Jordanian responses after their pilot was burned were telling: Quotes like "we thought they (ISIS) would only commit atrocities against Non Muslims" were common. They recognize they live in a world of "Muslim" and "non-Muslim". Many Americans and Apologist in general don't live in that world as their perception is based on some 70s kumbaya Mantra.

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Old 05-23-2015, 02:05 PM
 
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He might have read a translation. That's not really the Quran, only the Quran in Arabic is "the Quran". And further one needs a tafsir... Or several of them to understand the context of verses, why things are said in the Quran, what is God trying to say...

Now what someone like him does is cherry pick with out reference to time, place, context and starts making blanket judgements. I could do the very same to his religious book but I don't pretend to even begin to understand Aramaic, Ancient Greek or Hebrew and therefore should refrain from having an opinion on the topic.
"He might have read a translation. That's not really the Quran, only the Quran in Arabic is "the Quran"."

Do you also need some magic glasses to read it? After several hundred years of linguist working on Arabic to English translations and every other language in the world we can probably understand about 90% of it don't you think?
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Old 05-23-2015, 02:14 PM
 
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The media wants us to think of them as Russians, not Muslim terrorists(almost an oxymoron).
Don't know where you get your information but the media was very clear that the Tsarnaev brothers were both Chechen and only the truly dense need to be reminded that the Chechens and that Chechnya is one of a number of Majority Muslim states of the Russia Federation.
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Old 05-23-2015, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Aztlan
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So because it is not religiously motivated, you too are OK with it?
No, I did not say that I condone it. I said that religion has nothing to do with the violence, but you knew that. You are just trying to desperately deflect from the topic with your tales about Mexican drug cartels.
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Old 05-23-2015, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Attack is eminent, from the Muslims. What do you think the Boston Marathon bombing was?
It was retaliation for killing their people.
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It was a Muslim attack on Americans.
No it wasn't

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The same with 9/11.
We invade and occupy their Holy lands. We kill their innocent people. Our undying support for Israel. Those are the 3 main reasons.

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The Muslims are going to keep on attacking and trying to destroy non-Muslims, because that's the written instructions in the Koran - they have to kill or convert non-Muslims, and if they die trying, they die a martyr. We are the infidel enemy to them, as long as we exist.
In your mind they are. In the real world they are defending their country.
They didn't mess with America until we went over there.
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Old 05-23-2015, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It seems that it needs to keep being pointed out because people keep trying to blame all Muslims for the actions of the few extremists. Until people stop doing that, people like me will have to keep stating something that should be obvious to everyone.
Agreed. It's about the government in those countries. But Boobus will continue to ignore that and incorrectly group all Muslims together.
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Old 05-23-2015, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Texas
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OK, show us how Christians are " beheading people, burning people alive and burning bodies, creating mass graves, and rampant rape" "today, year 2015, right next door to us".
So according to you, it's not about killing people, it's how it's done. So killing innocent men, women, and children with drones is a-ok in your book because it isn't a beheading.
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Old 05-23-2015, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Aztlan
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It was retaliation for killing their people.
No it wasn't

We invade and occupy their Holy lands. We kill their innocent people. Our undying support for Israel. Those are the 3 main reasons.

In your mind they are. In the real world they are defending their country.
They didn't mess with America until we went over there.
You love your country so much that you are making excuses for terrorists.
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Old 05-23-2015, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Aztlan
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So according to you, it's not about killing people, it's how it's done. So killing innocent men, women, and children with drones is a-ok in your book because it isn't a beheading.
I oppose the Obama drone program. Obama has much innocent blood on his hands. Also I was quoting someone who was trying to say that Christians do those things, specifically Mexican drug cartels. Please try to pay attention rather than mindlessly responding.
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