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Old 05-25-2015, 02:02 PM
 
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First step to improving the education system would be to eliminate government involvement entirely along with the public money it uses to inflate costs and brainwash students.
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Old 05-25-2015, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I suggest reading some of the arguments against the GI Bill to pay for college for returning WW2 veterans. Mostly they were concerned with expense and with dilution of the college educated elite's cultural purity.
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Old 05-25-2015, 03:15 PM
 
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I suggest reading some of the arguments against the GI Bill to pay for college for returning WW2 veterans. Mostly they were concerned with expense and with dilution of the college educated elite's cultural purity.
In today's world, our college grads can't find jobs.
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Old 05-25-2015, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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In today's world, our college grads can't find jobs.
They are more likely to be employed than those w/o degrees.
Earnings and unemployment rates by educational attainment
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Old 05-25-2015, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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They are more likely to be employed than those w/o degrees.
Earnings and unemployment rates by educational attainment
Smart people are more likely to pursue higher education. Those stats you cite are to be expected. Still, it does not mean the answer to America's troubles can be solved by "free" education (doesn't exist anywhere on the planet by the way)... It's simply more armchair rhetoric.
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Old 05-25-2015, 04:04 PM
 
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They are more likely to be employed than those w/o degrees.
Earnings and unemployment rates by educational attainment
However, if you take a look at another link from that page, you see a more realistic table comparing bachelors degrees with technical training.

The situation it shows is much less clear cut.
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Old 05-25-2015, 04:05 PM
 
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In today's world, our college grads can't find jobs.
They can if they are also certified in building things or fixing things. Of course, they'd still have that job with the certification and without the bachelor's degree.
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Old 05-25-2015, 04:16 PM
 
Location: DC
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In today's world, our college grads can't find jobs.
The engineers can
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Old 05-25-2015, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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However, if you take a look at another link from that page, you see a more realistic table comparing bachelors degrees with technical training.

The situation it shows is much less clear cut.
I think you misread that. It shows the number of projected openings. And if you look at the salaries, it definitely goes down with less education.
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Old 05-25-2015, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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First step to improving the education system would be to eliminate government involvement entirely along with the public money it uses to inflate costs and brainwash students.
I wonder what would happen to college costs if the government stopped backing student loans and changed the laws to make them like any other loan; one that can be discharged in bankruptcy. My guess is tuition would be more reasonable since there wouldn't be any way an 18 year old could borrow 100k to pursue an undergrad degree in philosophy or asian womens studies.........

Our government at work screwing young ignorant people. Why on earth do we do this to our kids?
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