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Old 05-29-2015, 07:03 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Poking fun at religions solves nothing and just divides.
I suspect when Dems and progressives stop using offensive terms like "American Taliban", "teahadists", "domestic terrorists" etc. against their political adversaries and conservative Christians, perhaps you'll get some sympathy.

 
Old 05-29-2015, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Aztlan
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I don't think that freedom of speech or any part of the constitution is the point with bikers, maybe they will do the same at a church to prove their point.
Is there a Christian prohibition on drawing a cartoon of Jesus Christ?
 
Old 05-29-2015, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Aztlan
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"ROUND 2!!!!!!! This will be a PEACEFUL protest in front of the Islamic Community Center in Phoenix AZ," Ritzheimer posted on Facebook. "This is in response to the recent attack in Texas where 2 armed terrorist, with ties to ISIS, attempted Jihad. Everyone is encouraged to bring American Flags and any message that you would like to send to the known acquaintances of the 2 gunmen."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2239435

Obviously, these bikers have a reason to do this. If there are no terrorists in the country, we have nothing to worry about, right? It is obvious that these bikers are not targeting the whole Muslim community.
Very well said. This is an excellent opportunity for Muslims to prove that they are truly the "religion of peace". If they want to be in America, fine, but they need to play by our rules, and that means religious toleration like John Locke wrote about back in the 17th century, or as Brooks and Dunn put it 14 years ago, "everyone gets to dance".

A Letter Concerning Toleration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN1iI-DaJNw

Note - This video is politically correct - the white kid "might end up going to prison".

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Old 05-29-2015, 08:21 AM
 
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It's encouraging that there are some Americans that still have the courage to exercise their right to free speech. Especially when it's in a manner that encourages religious nutjobs to realize that their little tantrums in the name of their silly superstitions aren't scary, they are simply contemptible.

We had more Americans like this at one time, that stood up to evil and subjugation. Sadly, MLK was shot for doing so by some intolerant nutcase. I hope the same doesn't happen to these people.
I think there is more danger of some hating biker shooting some totally innocent Muslim than any violence from Muslims
 
Old 05-29-2015, 08:25 AM
 
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Nonsense. MLK had respect and class. He was always respectful in his dealings with those in the Nation of Islam and Islam, even when they were critical of him. Never would he engage in the low class behavior of these bikers.
Not the same as Imans who call for the killing of infidels.

Muslim Inman Calls For Killing
Muslim Inman Calls For Killing “Infidels” Gets Hired By Eric Holder To Teach Classes To Prisoners



Is anyone complaining? Is Holder a low life?
 
Old 05-29-2015, 08:28 AM
 
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So why do they need to hold this event in front of an Islamic Community Center, how would Christians feel if the same group held an event in front of a church with derogatory cartoons of Jesus.

This is not in response to the recent attack, just a bunch of rednecks on bikes. There are terrorists in this country, what a shocking revelation.

Poking fun at religions solves nothing and just divides.
People have protested at churches and have produced art like "**** Jesus." The Christians didn't like it but didn't become violent. That's kind of the point here - you don't have to like it, but don't become violent.
 
Old 05-29-2015, 08:29 AM
 
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This isn't art. The people holding this rally probably couldn't tell you the difference between post-modernism and cubism, even between Manet and Monet.

These people are simple using "freedom of speech" and "art" as a cover for racially based intimidation. It seems the only difference between this and the KKK is that this group has drawn some third rate cartoons beforehand.

They have the right to do this no doubt, but any cultured American should be appalled by this behavior.
 
Old 05-29-2015, 08:30 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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They talk big, but when the chips get laid down, they will crawl under the rock in which they came...
 
Old 05-29-2015, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Aztlan
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These people are simple using "freedom of speech" and "art" as a cover for racially based intimidation.
You mentioned a dead organization, the KKK. Shouldn't you have cited ISIS?

Also. Muslim is a religion, not a race. Read the Autobiography of Malcolm X sometime. When he went to Mecca he was astounded at the diversity of skin color in the Muslim faith. Yes, there are white Muslims.
 
Old 05-29-2015, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Aztlan
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People have protested at churches and have produced art like "**** Jesus." The Christians didn't like it but didn't become violent. That's kind of the point here - you don't have to like it, but don't become violent.
The National Endowment for the Arts once gave money to an "artist" who put a crucifix with Jesus on the cross in a jar of urine. Same thing, no violence from the Christians.
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