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Old 06-02-2015, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
Same happened to a Jewish officer in the military that wanted to wear his yarmulke.
Supreme Court ruled against him.
I would think the military, paramilitary would be different, but if someone Jewish was denied by Abercrombie it would be viewed the same.

 
Old 06-02-2015, 02:42 PM
 
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Same happened to a Jewish officer in the military that wanted to wear his yarmulke.
Supreme Court ruled against him.
The Supreme court ruled against him because being in the military restricts your rights. Ambercrombie is not a military group......unless the conspiracy theorists are right....
 
Old 06-02-2015, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I was afraid of this. This doesn't just apply to Muslims. What if a Mennonite could sue Hooters because she wanted to wear an ankle length dress?
I find it odd that a practicing Mormon or Menonite would willingly work for an employer in a role that demands you dress scantily clad. This includes strip clubs and brestaurants like Hooters.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 02:46 PM
 
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I find it odd that a practicing Mormon or Menonite would willingly work for an employer in a role that demands you dress scantily clad. This includes strip clubs and brestaurants like Hooters.
It's better than resorting to crime, isn't it?
 
Old 06-02-2015, 02:47 PM
 
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I find it odd that a practicing Mormon or Menonite would willingly work for an employer in a role that demands you dress scantily clad. This includes strip clubs and brestaurants like Hooters.
According to this ruling they don't have to dress scantily.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 02:49 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
The Supreme Court Jesters really showed their contempt for private property rights on this one.
The Jesters lead by one Justice Antonin Scalia in an 8-1 decision clearly show there contempt for those who believe that property rights trump all others.

You know this wasn't a property case?? It was an employment discrimination case!

 
Old 06-02-2015, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The Supreme court ruled against him because being in the military restricts your rights. Ambercrombie is not a military group......unless the conspiracy theorists are right....

That's what I posted.."the USG:rules for you but not for me"
 
Old 06-02-2015, 02:59 PM
 
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Same happened to a Jewish officer in the military that wanted to wear his yarmulke.
Supreme Court ruled against him.
In 1987, Congress passed legislation which reversed this decision and allowed members of the armed forces to wear religious apparel in a "neat and conservative" manner.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 03:09 PM
 
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The Jesters lead by one Justice Antonin Scalia in an 8-1 decision clearly show there contempt for those who believe that property rights trump all others.

You know this wasn't a property case?? It was an employment discrimination case!

It dealt with the "properties" of an employer.

It changed the established "properties" of an employee.

"The master and servant relationship arises out of an express contract; the law, however, will sometimes imply a contract when none exists if a person was led to believe there was one by the conduct of both the employer and the employee. No contract exists, however, unless both master and servant consent to it. The contract can contain whatever terms and conditions the parties agree to, provided they are legal."

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti...er+%26+Servant
 
Old 06-02-2015, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Added Justice Kagan, "If you are, in fact, wearing a headscarf for religious reasons," then Abercrombie's "neutral policy [against caps] really doesn't matter."

If Elauf prevails in this case, Kagan observed, the result would be what some might think of as an "awkward conversation" about why she wears a headscarf and whether she would seek a religious accommodation.

But the alternative, Kagan noted, "is a rule where Abercrombie just gets to say, we're going to stereotype people and prevent them from getting jobs."

"Now, between those two options," she asked, which one "is the worse problem?"


High Court Leans Toward Religious Protection In Headscarf Case : NPR
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