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Old 06-04-2015, 06:01 AM
 
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Americans Are Becoming More Liberal On Social Issues

"It's a center right country"-Karl Rove

 
Old 06-04-2015, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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yeah and people were like that in the roaring 20s and the pendullum swung back.


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Americans Are Becoming More Liberal On Social Issues

"It's a center right country"-Karl Rove
 
Old 06-04-2015, 06:47 AM
 
Location: california
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Government mandated immorality does not speak for all the people.
 
Old 06-04-2015, 07:02 AM
 
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And government trying to enforce morality doesn't work.
 
Old 06-04-2015, 07:39 AM
 
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Americans Are Becoming More Liberal On Social Issues

"It's a center right country"-Karl Rove
Unfortunately, I might add.
 
Old 06-04-2015, 10:44 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Americans Are Becoming More Liberal On Social Issues

"It's a center right country"-Karl Rove
This is why I keep saying that it's time for the Tea Party and other extreme far right bible thumpers to take notice and move on. Drop the social issues. Gay marriage, abortion, etc are here to stay. Let's move on to other issues.

Social issues are an albatross around the neck of my party (the GOP). People like Huckabee, Sanitarium, Jindal, etc are dinosaurs that need to be ditched. Moderate Northeastern Republicans are what the GOP needs to listen to.
 
Old 06-04-2015, 10:51 AM
 
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The poll surveyed 1,024 people in 50 states and DC. That's about 20 people per state.

Don't trust polls.
 
Old 06-04-2015, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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And government trying to enforce morality doesn't work.
But conservatives insist that morality is the only thing you can legislate. That's why they would say we need to keep the war on drugs, since they feel getting high is so immoral and dangerous. Many conservatives would say that even if some laws are difficult to enforce, such as sodomy, the government would at least be providing guidelines as how to behave or morally conduct one's life. So many conservatives would support making laws against sodomy as constitutional.
 
Old 06-04-2015, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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But conservatives insist that morality is the only thing you can legislate. That's why they would say we need to keep the war on drugs, since they feel getting high is so immoral and dangerous.
Social conservatives is a poison. It dictates how others should live their lives and is the enemy of freedom. That's not to say I don't sympathize with some of their views. Being forced to accept gay marriage if you are devoted to your faith is unfair, and I adamantly support gay rights and am willing to acknowledge that. Abortion is an uncomfortable subject and I refuse to claim that those who are against are doing so because they hate women. But aside from those two issues, I for the most part see it as nothing but invading people's personal lives. People should be allowed to do whatever drug they want. They suffer any consequences it brings, but someone who is addicted needs help, not punishment.

And that's not to say individualistic social conservatism is bad, as in, living your personal life in a socially conservative way. That's perfectly fine. But to expect others to do so is the enemy of liberty.
 
Old 06-04-2015, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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This is why I keep saying that it's time for the Tea Party and other extreme far right bible thumpers to take notice and move on. Drop the social issues. Gay marriage, abortion, etc are here to stay. Let's move on to other issues.

Social issues are an albatross around the neck of my party (the GOP). People like Huckabee, Sanitarium, Jindal, etc are dinosaurs that need to be ditched. Moderate Northeastern Republicans are what the GOP needs to listen to.
But in the Red States, such as Oklahoma, many people wish more Republican church pastors, like Huckabee, would run for political office. The issues closest to the hearts of people in such states really are stopping gay marriage, banning abortion, promotion of Christianity in public schools, posting The Ten Commandments in or outside of public buildings, opposition to marijuana law reform, etc. And of course, pastors are closest to these issues as well. While he has a lot of competition, Huckabee is sure to win a number of Red States.
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