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Old 06-12-2015, 07:15 AM
 
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Yup. And I don't buy the idea of this being a "choice." It's just coercion.
Or lose their jobs if they refuse a vaccination. California legislation for all daycare staff (public, private, in home) and Vermont legislation for all public school staff.

Not coercion when you can be fired?

 
Old 06-12-2015, 07:35 AM
 
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Or lose their jobs if they refuse a vaccination. California legislation for all daycare staff (public, private, in home) and Vermont legislation for all public school staff.

Not coercion when you can be fired?
If you choose to enter a profession where you care for children or other human beings - be it education, daycares, nursing or other parts of the medical profession - then you should be expected to do so. That includes getting vaccinated.

Thank goodness my oncologist's office has the sense to hold their staff to the same standards.
 
Old 06-12-2015, 08:21 AM
 
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It will not be just your children, but you also. National Adult Vaccination Plan. Google that.

Have you read that they are trying to breed mosquitoes to deliver vaccines? Bill Gates has talked about and come out in favor. Bananas and yogurt also. Will anyone know that the bug bites they get, or the food that they eat, will be giving them vaccines without any consent on their part? Not science fiction but is in development right now. 100% compliance from the public.

I can remember years ago when they pushed genetically modified tomatoes with chicken DNA to create a bigger and better tomato. No, they did not want to label these tomatoes as such. Vegan? Allergic to Chicken? Tough. Media at the time called it "Frankenfood". Would they today? Doubt it. Public has drank the Kool Aid and thinks anything science does, including vaccinations, is just wonderful
There seems to be an obsession with trying to get people vaccinated. Those that are not vaccinated shouldn't post a threat to those that are. So the logic is senseless as to why they want to deny the freedom of those that are anti-vaccine.
 
Old 06-12-2015, 08:23 AM
 
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The vaccinations only work from a public health perspective if enough people get them. You can allow a certain fraction to go un-vaccinated. Unfortunately, there have been too many people opting out and some serious childhood diseases are making a comeback and threatening the lives of people who really can't get vaccines for medical reasons. Furthermore, it is both unnecessary and costly for society to bear the burden of treating people who refuse vaccines. So the superstitious, the ignorant and the half-brained conspiracy theorists will lose that right. Somehow I just don't care.
I'll tell you what I'd rather the government refuse me medical treatment for a disease covered by vaccination than to let them vaccinate me. Let's agree for that, can we? Would that get the vaccine crowd to stop pushing their medical religion down our throats?
 
Old 06-12-2015, 08:28 AM
 
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States like CA are doing away with religious and philosophical exemptions. They force people to either vaccinate or homeschool.
Where I live the vaccination requirements are forcing parents to remove their kids from public schools and put them into private schools. School boards don't like it because they make money per student in subsidies so they are all pro-vaccine.
 
Old 06-12-2015, 08:37 AM
 
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The Anti-Vaccine crow can fight back - They can remove their children from public schools and put them in private school. They can point out their public officials that refuse to recognize the liberty of its people.

Mexico just halted vaccinations due to so many dealths of babies in May. Just goes to show that the modern area has not fixed the problem with vaccinations.
 
Old 06-12-2015, 08:38 AM
 
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The Anti-Vaccine crow can fight back - They can remove their children from public schools and put them in private school.
Sadly, the legislation in CA includes Private school. The only option is to homeschool.
 
Old 06-12-2015, 09:04 AM
 
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How does this mean they'll be forced on us? Scare easily do you?
 
Old 06-12-2015, 10:18 AM
 
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Sadly, the legislation in CA includes Private school. The only option is to homeschool.
Then homeschool it is. If that is where it leads us then we go there. The ability to vaccinate you is the greatest power in the world right now.

Many people don't even realize that aborted fetus cells are used in vaccines. Yes, folks as horrid as it sounds those aborted fetuses are BIG Business. I wonder if there has ever been an investigation into kickbacks for doctors that convince a teenage girl to abort so they can sell that fetus to a drug maker or against ER doctors that decide it is not in the best interest of a drug induced woman to give birth to her child so they abort it and use the excuse it would not be growing up in a miserable environment.
 
Old 06-12-2015, 10:19 AM
 
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How does this mean they'll be forced on us? Scare easily do you?
You see when they say that it is child neglect to vaccinate your children and call family service to remove them from you then at that time your forced to get them vaccinated. Trust me if you don't think that is coming then your naïve.
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