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Old 07-18-2015, 04:13 PM
 
Location: When you take flak it means you are on target
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So, ONE recruiting station got attacked. And it's a big deal, with all kinds of response ideas.

There are 1,400.

Think about this. In a concerted action, what if 100 were shot up at once? What if 100 police stations were added to that? And if it happened once a week for a month as copycats and disaffected people joined the fray.

Habeas Corpus would be rescinded, people would be disappeared by govt forces in large numbers, resulting in retaliation attacks on govt forces by outraged citizens. Gun confiscations would be enacted, resulting in widespread unrest and further attacks, resulting in thousands of deaths, tens of thousands of arrests. Military prison camps - which in turn results in guerilla groups forming and attacking govt forces.

Transportation ceases, economy collapses, military is activated, people who don't want to starve are moved to camps, others go underground and join resistance forces. Bandits and gangs hit targets of opportunity. Chaos reigns.

A couple of hundred people, whether muslim fanatics, anti govt or religious patriotic forces, or any capable group could pretty much change the country in a month.

Pretty scary if you think about it.

What's your opinion? Could it happen?
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Old 07-18-2015, 04:35 PM
 
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So, ONE recruiting station got attacked. And it's a big deal, with all kinds of response ideas.

There are 1,400.

Think about this. In a concerted action, what if 100 were shot up at once? What if 100 police stations were added to that? And if it happened once a week for a month as copycats and disaffected people joined the fray.

Habeas Corpus would be rescinded, people would be disappeared by govt forces in large numbers, resulting in retaliation attacks on govt forces by outraged citizens. Gun confiscations would be enacted, resulting in widespread unrest and further attacks, resulting in thousands of deaths, tens of thousands of arrests. Military prison camps - which in turn results in guerilla groups forming and attacking govt forces.

Transportation ceases, economy collapses, military is activated, people who don't want to starve are moved to camps, others go underground and join resistance forces. Bandits and gangs hit targets of opportunity. Chaos reigns.

A couple of hundred people, whether muslim fanatics, anti govt or religious patriotic forces, or any capable group could pretty much change the country in a month.

Pretty scary if you think about it.

What's your opinion? Could it happen?
Possible tho many of us will NEVER surrender our guns. IF the rest came down; IMHO we'll bounce back, we ain't a broken "culture" like down in LatAm.
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Old 07-18-2015, 04:51 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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So, ONE recruiting station got attacked. And it's a big deal, with all kinds of response ideas.

There are 1,400.

Think about this. In a concerted action, what if 100 were shot up at once? What if 100 police stations were added to that? And if it happened once a week for a month as copycats and disaffected people joined the fray.

Habeas Corpus would be rescinded, people would be disappeared by govt forces in large numbers, resulting in retaliation attacks on govt forces by outraged citizens. Gun confiscations would be enacted, resulting in widespread unrest and further attacks, resulting in thousands of deaths, tens of thousands of arrests. Military prison camps - which in turn results in guerilla groups forming and attacking govt forces.

Transportation ceases, economy collapses, military is activated, people who don't want to starve are moved to camps, others go underground and join resistance forces. Bandits and gangs hit targets of opportunity. Chaos reigns.

A couple of hundred people, whether muslim fanatics, anti govt or religious patriotic forces, or any capable group could pretty much change the country in a month.

Pretty scary if you think about it.

What's your opinion? Could it happen?
5 Americans were killed by a Moslem in the name of Islam. That's what's bad.
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Old 07-18-2015, 07:10 PM
 
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Soft targets all over....it would be like a turkey-shoot. Yeah, I am VERY surprised there has not been an attack similar to what happened in Mumbai:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Mumbai_attacks

In November 2008, 10 Pakistani members of Lashkar-e-Taiba, an Islamic militant organisation, carried out a series of 12 coordinated shooting and bombing attacks lasting four days across Mumbai.
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Old 07-18-2015, 08:01 PM
 
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Soft targets all over....it would be like a turkey-shoot. Yeah, I am VERY surprised there has not been an attack similar to what happened in Mumbai:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Mumbai_attacks

In November 2008, 10 Pakistani members of Lashkar-e-Taiba, an Islamic militant organisation, carried out a series of 12 coordinated shooting and bombing attacks lasting four days across Mumbai.
Probably because us Americans DO have the reps of not only being armed to the teeth: we're also batcrap crazy and WILL fight back, especially if the perps were some kind of "Muslim".
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Old 07-18-2015, 10:48 PM
 
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Well my theory is probably flawed. I mentioned it to a friend in the real world today and he pointed out they could barely get 19 together for 9/11, so we are probably safe, for now.
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Old 07-18-2015, 11:08 PM
 
Location: california
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The storm was significant , lot's of lightening I loved it.

I'm about as prepared as any one normally can get, outside a bunker .
I'm accustomed to a lot of natural disasters except tornados and from time to time we actually do get small ones here that do significant damage .
As for the social unrest thing , most people here seem pretty level headed for the most part, but I haven't seen them in a disaster yet either.
Gas jumping a dollar over night was a bit disturbing. and after a day or so the markets begin to reflect the hike.
If the dollar drops more in value suddenly again, commerce will come to a halt.
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Old 07-18-2015, 11:10 PM
 
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Nobody expected anyone to fly four jets into buildings either. Far feched? Probably, hopefully, but when you consider it we are very exposed.
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Old 07-18-2015, 11:11 PM
 
Location: california
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If you can't afford the gas to commute to your part time minimum wage job, you can not go.
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Old 07-18-2015, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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The storm was significant , lot's of lightening I loved it.

I'm about as prepared as any one normally can get, outside a bunker .
I'm accustomed to a lot of natural disasters except tornados and from time to time we actually do get small ones here that do significant damage .
As for the social unrest thing , most people here seem pretty level headed for the most part, but I haven't seen them in a disaster yet either.
Gas jumping a dollar over night was a bit disturbing. and after a day or so the markets begin to reflect the hike.
If the dollar drops more in value suddenly again, commerce will come to a halt.
Wait a minute, according to some posters on here:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...y-because.html

Huh.

Anyway...

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Originally Posted by jamies View Post
So, ONE recruiting station got attacked. And it's a big deal, with all kinds of response ideas.

There are 1,400.

Think about this. In a concerted action, what if 100 were shot up at once? What if 100 police stations were added to that? And if it happened once a week for a month as copycats and disaffected people joined the fray.

Habeas Corpus would be rescinded, people would be disappeared by govt forces in large numbers, resulting in retaliation attacks on govt forces by outraged citizens. Gun confiscations would be enacted, resulting in widespread unrest and further attacks, resulting in thousands of deaths, tens of thousands of arrests. Military prison camps - which in turn results in guerilla groups forming and attacking govt forces.

Transportation ceases, economy collapses, military is activated, people who don't want to starve are moved to camps, others go underground and join resistance forces. Bandits and gangs hit targets of opportunity. Chaos reigns.

A couple of hundred people, whether muslim fanatics, anti govt or religious patriotic forces, or any capable group could pretty much change the country in a month.

Pretty scary if you think about it.

What's your opinion? Could it happen?
...as others have said, what has happened in other countries won't necessarily happen here because, as stated, we are armed, and there's a whole lot of us who will NOT give up our weapons. Look what happened in....what state was that...CT? When they told the people that they had to bring their guns in to the police station and a good chunk of them pretty much said: "pound sand" ? It was in a liberal state...imagine trying to get the guns out of the hands of those in other liberal states as well as very deeply Conservative states.

It's not going to happen.
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