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View Poll Results: $18.30 an hour wages will lead to a LOSS of Fast Food Jobs
YES, $18.30 an hour will LOSE Fast Food Jobs 93 82.30%
NO, $18.30 an hour won't harm Fast Food Jobs 20 17.70%
Voters: 113. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-24-2015, 12:16 PM
 
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Although I do support a minimum wage, it needs to be a reasonable one. MIT's living wage estimate that fast food workers in NY should get $18.30 an hour seems absurd, along with the push for $15 nationwide for fast food workers.

Many fast food workers are high school and college aged kids making money on the side while in school or in transition.

Adults that work in fast food tend not to have a lot of job skills on average. Hence, working in fast food and not as a brain surgeon.

If fast food workers were to get an $18.30 an hour minimum wage, then 1 of 2 things would happen:

1) prices of fast food would in fact increase substantially. Less fast food would be bought. Workers would get laid off as the fast food industry suffered.

2) fast food restaurants would start using automation through machines that can cook and assemble the hamburgers, tacos, etc for them. We already have the technology and in some places like Tokyo it is now more profitable to just have machines make the fast food than humans.

What would these low job skilled adults do for work after they price themselves out of a job?


Automation is the way of the future, asking for $15 minimum wage for a low skill job is going to speed up automation and lead to the loss of jobs for burger flippers.



This automated Hamburger maker is more sanitary and more efficient than an entire crew at McDonald's and can make a hamburger to very specific specifications every 10 seconds:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ_fSP3LGw8





Fully automated German restaurant, is cheaper:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Teo6veZOg



China and Japan have a growing and more profitable robot restaurant industry:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cidUUAhJ0s
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Old 07-24-2015, 12:17 PM
 
Location: City of Angels
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honestly i don't know how i could survive on $18/hr. cant even imagine how minimum wage ppl do it now. must be awful.
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Old 07-24-2015, 12:17 PM
 
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Why not round up to $30.00 and throw a whole bunch more out of work a whole lot sooner?
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Old 07-24-2015, 12:19 PM
 
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honestly i don't know how i could survive on $18/hr. cant even imagine how minimum wage ppl do it now. must be awful.
MW was NEVER meant to support a lifestyle. NEVER, unless you lived at home and had no real bills.
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Old 07-24-2015, 12:22 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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MW was NEVER meant to support a lifestyle. NEVER, unless you lived at home and had no real bills.
Yep, if minimum wage was linked to inflation since its origin it would be less than $4.50 an hour right now.
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Old 07-24-2015, 12:25 PM
 
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Wow that robot is amazing.

I would prefer that.
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Old 07-24-2015, 12:42 PM
 
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All this talk about living wage etc. and it's just a political talking point.

A national living wage is utterly ridiculous given the variance in cost of living and you can guarantee that the rural state Senators would kill any type of legislation.

So what you really have here is a big fat lie for votes where people like Hillary talk about how they care for and want to help the poor and working people.

Um....she's the same gal that helped push NAFTA which off-shored many of the jobs that used to pay better wages.
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Old 07-24-2015, 12:52 PM
 
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Why not round up to $30.00 and throw a whole bunch more out of work a whole lot sooner?
There would be some ripples but I don't think anyone is going out work. What will happen is when they go to purchase a McDonald's meal it's going to be $30 so they will be right back where they started.
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Old 07-24-2015, 12:53 PM
 
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Wow that robot is amazing.

I would prefer that.
Least you don't have to worry about it spitting on your food. I don;t even like going to pricier restaurants, too many unsanitary conditions.
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Old 07-24-2015, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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MW was NEVER meant to support a lifestyle. NEVER, unless you lived at home and had no real bills.
Being a burger flipper is now a "career" and it has to support a middle class lifestyle.
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