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Stadiums are tax payer funded, for some reason, so that's fine with me. .
I'd agree with you, if not for the fact that so many cities turn to the TOBACCO USERS via "sin taxes" to build their stadiums in the first place, like in Cleveland for instance....
There's just something wrong about raising taxes on tobacco users to build and maintain a stadium and then telling them they aren't welcome to use it, not even in designated areas.
Not to mention that it sends a mixed message. On one hand, they're trying to brainwash the public in to not using tobacco by stigmatizing it's use, but on the other hand, they are relying on that very activity for revenue. Just more government hypocrisy.
I just heard the mayor of Boston banned fans from using or bringing chewing or smokeless tobacco to baseball games, and that San Francisco has a similar policy and Los Angles is considering it as well. WTF? Commie politicians and commie corporate sports teams are going to commie.
More government sanctioned social engineering. They want to brainwash you in to making the choices and decisions that THEY have deemed appropriate for you.
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Maybe if they didn't feel the right to spit everywhere or leave a big dip in the urinal it wouldn't be a problem?
Maybe, but that's not why they're banning it. They're banning it to "de-normalize" and stigmatize the use of tobacco. In other words, brainwashing. Social engineering.
Same reason they banned the use of e-cigs in public; Not because it was unhealthy for the people around them, but because they didn't want to "renormalize the sight of smoking in public after spending so many years stigmatizing smokers"
That was how health officials in NYC and LA described the reasoning behind their ban on public use of e-cigs.
That progressive liberals have to meddle with and ruin everything. What does tobacco have to do with baseball? Nothing except libs want to tell people what they can and can't do at a ball game they paid for a ticket and taxes they paid to help fund the stadium.
Here in Cleveland the building of all 3 sports facilities were funded by the taxpayers of Cuyahoga County via a "sin tax" on cigarettes and alcohol! The irony here is they want smokers to fund their lavish stadiums, and yet you can't smoke in any of them! I don't live in Cuyahoga County so I don't pay the "sin tax," but as a smoker, why should I have to pay for their facilities, if I can't smoke in them?! What a racket!
I'd agree with you, if not for the fact that so many cities turn to the TOBACCO USERS via "sin taxes" to build their stadiums in the first place, like in Cleveland for instance....
There's just something wrong about raising taxes on tobacco users to build and maintain a stadium and then telling them they aren't welcome to use it, not even in designated areas.
Not to mention that it sends a mixed message. On one hand, they're trying to brainwash the public in to not using tobacco by stigmatizing it's use, but on the other hand, they are relying on that very activity for revenue. Just more government hypocrisy.
Oh there are designated areas. However; they're very limited. When I had Browns season tickets it used to be that you could smoke down by the concession stands. That has changed. I took my son along with my buddy and his son to a pre-season Browns game a few years ago, and there was only ONE designated area just outside of the stadium. Fortunately where we had our seats all we had to do is walk straight up the aisle, and straight out. Imagine if you had seats clear on the other side. I'm glad I can watch the games in the comfort of my own home, on my recliner. I can drink as much as I want, much cheaper too... I can eat cheaper, I can cuss as much as I want without having to worry about being thrown out (and being a Browns fan can cause one to erupt into some pretty colorful metaphors) and while I can't smoke in my house, my patio is right there.
I think you misunderstood what I meant, and upon rereading what I wrote, I doubt you were the only one, so let me clarify:
I was saying I'm ok with that mayor's decision to ban tobacco in the stadium, since the stadium is tax payer funded. The mayor has reasonable authority over it since the state government commissioned it.
I do not like that stadiums are tax payer funded. But if they are, I see no reason why the mayor can't say 'no' to certain things within.
It's 2015 - do people really still use dip? Gross.
Really can't imagine this would impact too many people at Fenway and it really shouldn't be acceptable at public parks. It was really gross walking past stinky loogies or Gatorade bottles filled with brown spit growing up playing youth league baseball and softball in the South where dip is far more common.
It's 2015 - do people really still use dip? Gross.
Really can't imagine this would impact too many people at Fenway and it really shouldn't be acceptable at public parks. It was really gross walking past stinky loogies or Gatorade bottles filled with brown spit growing up playing youth league baseball and softball in the South where dip is far more common.
Do people still dip in 2015? Yep. This morning at the gas station when I stopped for coffee on the way to work a military guy in line in front of me bought 2 logs of it.
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Imagine if you had seats clear on the other side. I'm glad I can watch the games in the comfort of my own home, on my recliner. I can drink as much as I want, much cheaper too... I can eat cheaper, I can cuss as much as I want without having to worry about being thrown out (and being a Browns fan can cause one to erupt into some pretty colorful metaphors
) and while I can't smoke in my house, my patio is right there.
