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there is no need for them to stop doing abortions. abortions are legal. a woman's rights are rights not dependent on some part of the population considering them immoral. too bad if "some" people don't like it.
if they need to get PP investigated and if something illegal happened make the people responsible get fired, pay the fine or do the jail time.
very true, abortion is unfortunately legal, but that does not mean that federal monies should go to funding abortion. if the states want to do it, or if the local governments want to do it, then they can raise the money for that purpose, but the fed is spending far too much money, and needs to stop doing that.
very true, abortion is unfortunately legal, but that does not mean that federal monies should go to funding abortion. if the states want to do it, or if the local governments want to do it, then they can raise the money for that purpose, but the fed is spending far too much money, and needs to stop doing that.
fed money doe not pay for abortion. the fed spends way to much money things they really do pay for like wars.
It's irrelevant. I'm pro-life but this has nothing of any relevance today. No one can be held accountable for the wrong actions of someone in the past.
Most who would try and do this here would have a conniption concerning the idea of reparations over slavery.
You want to condemn their actions today? O.K. but no one is reaponsible today for something someone did nearly a hundred years ago.
History is always relevant, and at least to me, interesting. Quoth George Orwell:
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Those who control the present control the past. And those who control the past control the future.
Nowhere did I argue that anyone today should be held accountable for the actions of 100 years ago, so that is a straw man. Note also that it renders the comparison to reparations for slavery invalid.
I am not asking for a remedy for the racism of the early progressives, just an awareness. It's especially relevant since present-day progressives are pursing a mutated version of racial division. Their strategy now is to foment division and distrust. The primary tool is the false accusation of racism against advocates of limited government. This predictably creates division and hostility, plus makes it difficult for genuine victims of racism to obtain justice, due to the 'boy cries wolf' effect. Which of course means yet more division and hostility.
Is America a horrible country because many of our Founding Fathers owned slaves?
Mick
Do we stick our heads in the sand and pretend that slavery never happened? Do we ignore the history of slavery, or even more to the point, segregation that was often official government policy until about 50 years ago?
Today's baby boomers, who are only now beginning to reach retirement age, were born into and grew up in a nation where segregation was the rule, even in the north. As a kid I still remember that the apartment building where my grandma lived, in a Chicago suburb, would not rent to blacks. It was a long time ago, but obviously less than a lifetime ago seeing as I am still around to tell about it.
I ran across this in a US history survey entitled A Patriot's History of the United States." Planned Parenthood was founded as the "American Birth Control League" by Margaret Sanger in 1921. Sanger was a nurse in New York City who hung out with the socialist/progressive/radical vanguard of the time, including "Big Bill Haywood, Clarence Darrow, Upton Sinclair, Eugene Debs, etc. She founded and published a journal called "The Woman Rebel".
Sanger became very interested in the concept of eugenics, which was then popular among progressives and socialists. The American Eugenics Society was founded in 1923 by a pair of prominent biologists(Charles Davenport and Luther Burbank) and Alexander Graham Bell, scientist and inventor of the telephone. Eugenics advocates were white supremacists, and Sanger believed that contraception had an important role to play in advancing the cause of white supremacy. She likened blacks and Chinese to a "plague," and viewed birth control as a means of "weeding out the unfit." In a particularly sickening passage, she wrote that black children were "destined to be a burden to themselves, to their family, and ultimately to the nation."However, these views proved controversial, even in the progressive era.
In 1914 she was indicted under the Comstock act, which was an anti-porn law of the time. Some of her writings were deemed to be indecent. She fled to Canada, and then to England in order to escape prosecution.
There she became familiar with the writings of the Brit economist Thomas Robert Malthus an 18th-19th century Brit economist and pioneer of demographics. She realized that the ideas of Malthus provided a more palatable packaging for eugenics--population control instead of race-control.
History is always relevant, and at least to me, interesting. Quoth George Orwell:
Then I am sure there are history boards. Yours was another attempt to attack P.P. Nothing more. It wasn't a history lesson, everyone knows their history.
There are plenty of current things to discuss about their actions but what happened 100 years ago isn't a reason to condemn them today.
I think you could infer several points from this, but mainly it is just a recounting of interesting history, which is worthwhile in itself.
I find it interesting that so many present day issues can be traced back to race politics. Gun control actually started out in the US as a movement to keep guns out of the hands of blacks. The formation of unions in some cases had as impetus an effort to exclude blacks from labor markets. The War on Drugs (Harrison Act of 1914) was sold as a way to keep America (and in particular white female America) safe from Negro drug fiends w/ superhuman strength (sound familiar). I could go on but you get the idea.
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