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Old 08-13-2015, 06:22 AM
 
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The image is funny but, ah yes, another phony scandal to drive...
People like you don't take anything seriously do you? Sec of State completely careless with classified info/national security....no big deal....

What is phony about it? Please explain in detail the phoniness of putting "convenience" and secrecy above national security.
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Old 08-13-2015, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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People like you don't take anything seriously do you? Sec of State completely careless with classified info/national security....no big deal....

What is phony about it? Please explain in detail the phoniness of putting "convenience" and secrecy above national security.
People like me tend to depend on facts to elevate some allegations to "scandal" level.

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Old 08-13-2015, 07:23 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The image is funny but, ah yes, another phony scandal to drive...

It is only a phoney scandal, to those that believe Hillary is above the law.
When laws do not apply to you, you are the freest person in the world. The most liberty of all.
Kill, swindle, lie and cover-up..... Progressive Policy.
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Old 08-13-2015, 07:29 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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People like me tend to depend on facts to elevate some allegations to "sandal" level.
The same facts led to petraus being brought up on criminal charges.
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Old 08-13-2015, 07:33 AM
 
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People like me tend to depend on facts to elevate some allegations to "sandal" level.
Here are some facts:

Hillary choose to put convenience and secrecy above national security. She risked a lot for nothing.

She has had over a year to turn over the server as is. She choose not to until basically forced to.

She decided that she and her pals would choose which emails were work related and which were not. That should not have been up to her when claims were made that classified info passed through her server.

She transferred over what she says were the only work emails to a usb drive. Then wiped the server.

She said no classified info was on the server. That was proven false.

She has maintained this entire time that no sensitive info was on the server. So why not turn it over at the start? Why wipe it? You have nothing to hide yet you refused to turn over the server and then have it wiped? Sorry, if you believe she was not hiding and deceiving then you can live with your head in the sand.

Hillary's team is now lawyering up.

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It was a crime to have classified material at the Clinton residence, especially Top Secret/compartmented intelligence data, regardless of what form it was in.

It’s a crime to transmit such material outside of secured and approved government systems, even (as 18 USC 793 (f) (1) states) when it’s done out of gross negligence rather than malice. That carries a 10-year prison term per count. It was a violation of the Federal Records Act to have the private e-mail server in the first place, as well as a violation of a presidential executive order. Wiping the hard drive after its exposure could well constitute obstruction of justice, which carries a 3-5 year prison term.
Petraeus was charged and convicted for far less than this. You want to act like this is phony, carry on then. But there's a reason you sense some panic among media and Dems. Because this isnt phony as you want to claim.
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Old 08-13-2015, 07:45 AM
 
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People like me tend to depend on facts to elevate some allegations to "sandal" level.
Its a scandal when they start to blame others for their troubles Bob...
Like that video caused Benghasi with 4 lives lost just a flat out lie Bob...
Poor Hillary always thinks there is a rightwing conspiracy against her she is a paranoid schizophrenic with delusional thoughts of perceived persecution Bob ...
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Old 08-13-2015, 08:09 AM
 
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Nothing is on the server now. She's had months to destroy every piece of incriminating evidence.

What was on there? Hmm... maybe stuff about Benghazi perhaps?
I'm pretty sure she would be guilty of a crime if that happened. It would definitely launch some deeper in investigations for sure.

If she was dumb enough to save classified material on a private server I guarantee you someone else has it. Probably the Russians and Chinese for sure.
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Old 08-13-2015, 08:38 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Sh*t, meet Fan...Fan, Sh*t.


FBI seize Hillary

That's just too funny! I love to see a liar, caught in their lies. Good riddance~ Hillary!
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Old 08-13-2015, 08:53 AM
 
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It is only a phoney scandal, to those that believe Hillary is above the law.
When laws do not apply to you, you are the freest person in the world. The most liberty of all.
Kill, swindle, lie and cover-up..... Progressive Policy.
Leftists expect their pols to be criminals. Like children and the mentally retarded, they think they shouldn't be held responsible for their actions.
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Old 08-13-2015, 09:12 AM
 
Location: United States
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Originally Posted by Tilt11 View Post
Here are some facts:

Hillary choose to put convenience and secrecy above national security. She risked a lot for nothing.

She has had over a year to turn over the server as is. She choose not to until basically forced to.

She decided that she and her pals would choose which emails were work related and which were not. That should not have been up to her when claims were made that classified info passed through her server.

She transferred over what she says were the only work emails to a usb drive. Then wiped the server.

She said no classified info was on the server. That was proven false.

She has maintained this entire time that no sensitive info was on the server. So why not turn it over at the start? Why wipe it? You have nothing to hide yet you refused to turn over the server and then have it wiped? Sorry, if you believe she was not hiding and deceiving then you can live with your head in the sand.

Hillary's team is now lawyering up.
You are correct in what I highlighted in green (and this all looks very bad), but what I highlighted in red, has not been confirmed yet. It hasn't been confirmed yet just when the information in the email became classified as secret. It is possible that the contents of the email were not classified as secret when they were emailed, and therefor no laws were broken.

All of this looks really bad, but lets remember that the usb drive most likely won't have any incriminating evidence (if it did, it surely has been removed by now) and that we don't know when the contents of the emails were classified as secret. And finally, let's not forget that the Clintons are masters of getting themselves out of scandals, so it's unlikely that this will end Hilary's run for POTUS.
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