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Old 08-30-2015, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Even if not reported you are still violating the state's law.

You do realize you and I both break several (if not many) laws per day? (Hopefully less for me with my CJ background )

The state may or may not catch us. They may or may not decide to pursue force. We may or may not know we broke some of these laws.

That all makes sense since it's based on a fictional contract.
How does your tin foil hat fit? I think it may be a little snug...

Are you sure that I have actually report that if I am discriminated against? It's not a crime to not report something. May not always be right but what's right and legal don't always overlap.
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Old 08-30-2015, 10:16 AM
 
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I don't need a vision. Freedom begins and ends with the NAP. I wasn't put on this earth to solve all your problems or society's problems. There's a word for that mindset: megalomania. I can spend my entire lifetime working on 1/10 of my own faults. I have no delusion to think I know who you are, what you value to make decisions for you.

Examples of aggression: voting, calling the police, holding political office, owning property outside the means of production.
Who's asking you to solve even one of my or society's problems?
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Old 08-30-2015, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I don't have that 'all or nothing' thing going on.
I'm not here to pick on Franklin but the man had slaves. At the very least he held political office. That alone makes him a statist.
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Old 08-30-2015, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Who's asking you to solve even one of my or society's problems?
You are by insisting that I abide by the social contract or else you'll have me fined, imprisoned, or killed (as a willing statist).

Subscribing to the social contract means my mind and body are to serve the collective state (common good).
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Old 08-30-2015, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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About what is legal and right. Say for instance a man does a hit and run with you being the only bystander but yet you can't stop because you need to be on-time at your job. You are supposed to report it but can only do it on your cell phone while driving which then makes you a law breaker because your state banned it. So which proverbial law do you break or do you pull over and risk being fired?
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Old 08-30-2015, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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How does your tin foil hat fit? I think it may be a little snug...

Are you sure that I have actually report that if I am discriminated against? It's not a crime to not report something. May not always be right but what's right and legal don't always overlap.
It sometimes is a crime not to report something. You can google Good Samaritan laws as well as mandatory reporter statutes.

I'd do it for you but I'm adjusting my tin foil hat.
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Old 08-30-2015, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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About what is legal and right. Say for instance a man does a hit and run with you being the only bystander but yet you can't stop because you need to be on-time at your job. You are supposed to report it but can only do it on your cell phone while driving which then makes you a law breaker because your state banned it. So which proverbial law do you break or do you pull over and risk being fired?
The state has henchmen called prosecutors. They have a wide scope of discretion. We call it "prosecutorial discretion".

Make sure you know which statutes your overlords like to enforce when you're in a particular jurisdiction. Hell, that's why I went into the CJ field to begin with. Study the ways of my enemy.
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Old 08-30-2015, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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It sometimes is a crime not to report something. You can google Good Samaritan laws as well as mandatory reporter statutes.

I'd do it for you but I'm adjusting my tin foil hat.
But you would need to be proven that you did that in the first place.
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Old 08-30-2015, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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But you would need to be proven that you did that in the first place.
Did what? I'm confused. You guys are wearing me down. Lol.
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Old 08-30-2015, 10:48 AM
 
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You are by insisting that I abide by the social contract or else you'll have me fined, imprisoned, or killed (as a willing statist).

Subscribing to the social contract means my mind and body are to serve the collective state (common good).
I asked "Who's asking you to solve even one of my or society's problems?"

I also asked in an earlier request, "to give an example where individuals in the US have agreed to commit aggression against each other."
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