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If the wine train and the specific employees that handled this situation are complete racists and don't want black people on their train, where are all the other news stories about other groups of black people being escorted off the train?
Just by looking at the pictures of the train, you can tell it's an upscale experience.
This. Exactly.
I was reading some reviews on Yelp and Facebook about this.
It was really telling... there were some black posters, who have been on the train before, and had a good time. Obviously, they weren't kicked off. They said they had recommended taking the train to their friends before, but now, after it's clear that the train company is staffed by racists, that they can't recommend it anymore.
So... they were black... they went on the train and behaved themselves... had a good time... were going to recommend it to others...
But now because a group of black women got kicked off, they can no longer recommend taking the train tour and have now written 1 star reviews bashing the company.
Honestly, my first reaction to this story was to roll my eyes. This group was asked to "tone it down" two or three times before they had to do their Walk of Shame through six cars to get off the train. The truth is that loud, obnoxious, annoying people ruin it for the rest of us.
And while this shouldn't have anything to do with race, let's be real. I have observed a certain socioeconomic group of black people behaving like this without any regard for anyone else. This happens on trains, in movie theaters, when you're out walking your dog, etc. They live to be loud. It's cultural. Are there other groups that are just as loud? Probably, but I don't see them where I live, so I can only speak to what I'm familiar with. I would have been one of the people complaining on that wine train or silently agreeing with those who did. This is why I avoid most types of public transportation. People need to behave, or accept the consequences of misbehaving - hopefully without playing the race card. Unfortunately, with the perpetual "victimhood" in this country, race is just another tool that entitled people use to get what they want. Sad.
What is "Sad" is your own stereotypical comments about black people. Low-class black people do behave like this and it is unfortunate. Apparently, that is the only kind you seem to have encountered so maybe you're not that hot yourself. People of all races can be loud, rude and obnoxious and they aren't judged because of the color of their skin and there is nothing "cultural" about it. It seems like the worse thing you can be in America is black because these Americans are damned if they do, damned if they don't. It is just a circumstance of birth, nothing more. I have no pride or loyalty in being a white American because I had nothing to do with it and it doesn't define me or the people I choose as friends. Perhaps, you should get out a bit more.
Another woman has accused the Napa Valley Wine Train of racial bias for threatening to remove her party from the train after a noise complaint made against them in April, even as the company has apologized for a similar incident on Saturday and said it didn’t reflect its values. Norma Ruiz, a graduate student in the University of California–San Francisco’s nursing program, was celebrating her 28th birthday in April when a patron approached her party of 10 people to say that they were being annoying and loud. “We were kind of taken by surprise because we were just celebrating my birthday having normal conversation,” Ruiz told me. A waiter told her group to continue their celebration and they moved to the dining car on their own, she said. Then a woman from the train company approached their party, which at this point had quieted down to below the noise level of the dining car, and told them if they didn’t “control [their] level of noise” they would be kicked off the train. Ruiz described the group as being made up of “all Latino individuals,” the majority of whom were local University of California–Berkeley graduates. She now sees the incident as one of racial bias.
They could have just been loud and having a good time, and the tour people were not used to it. I'm sure there are some cultures, Chinese comes to mind, where they say almost nothing. A group of Mormon gardeners may seem rowdy by comparison. I would give these women the benefit of the doubt, but no video, so who really knows.
That is nonsense. You've obviously never been around Chinese people. What is obvious is that you are confusing one Asian people with another and thus your statement is nothing less than prejudice. Please don't reply with a statement like you have Chinese friends or family members or anything else equally deaigned to display more of the same.
I just read all of the negative Yelp reviews and people looking to boycott the wine train. Should be a nice quiet ride from now on. I gotta try it next time I'm in California.
That is nonsense. You've obviously never been around Chinese people. What is obvious is that you are confusing one Asian people with another and thus your statement is nothing less than prejudice. Please don't reply with a statement like you have Chinese friends or family members or anything else equally deaigned to display more of the same.
Right, saying all Chinese are loud is kind of like making a blanket accusation against any group of people rather than ascribing behavior to individuals within the group. It's silly and not true -right? But no, that can't be true or you wouldn't have posted this on another thread:
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Originally Posted by Year2525
If the black lives matter goons thought black lives mattered, they'd act like it instead of acting like wild animals who learned how to scream.
Right, saying all Chinese are loud is kind of like making a blanket accusation against all blacks, it's silly and not true -right? But no, that can't be true or you wouldn't have posted this on another thread:
You are saying the Black Lives Matter gang represent all Blacks? Very interesting. I was very specific to note that specific group. You? What an utter failure of a post.
Originally Posted by*Year2525*
"If the black lives matter goons thought black lives mattered, they'd act like it instead of acting like wild animals who learned how to scream."
You are saying the Black Lives Matter gang represent all Blacks? Very interesting. I was very specific to note that specific group. You? What an utter failure of a post.
Really? So, what you are saying is that all people who associate with "black lives matter" act like wild animals who learned how to scream? You are making a broad, baseless assumption about a group of people and what's even worse you resort to a dog whistle to make your point.
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