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Old 09-15-2015, 05:36 AM
 
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Yes the same government that funds the Sunni extremist movement and 9/11 is a ally of the U.S. Saudi Arabia is in reality a far bigger threat to the U.S. than Iran.

Iran is bad, and unfortunately is being led by a theocratic dictatorship. Ayatollah Khamenei's rhetoric is just that, rhetoric.



No they are not insane lunatics dying to push the red button (That would be ISIS, whom Iran is fighting). If Iran attacked the U.S. it would be the end of Iran, which is why Iran will never do it.
Yes, I think they are fanatical enough to push the button, in the name of Allah of course.
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Old 09-15-2015, 06:15 AM
 
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Just wondering if those with the "oh, they are not lunatics, they will not push the button" would react if the local authorities will grant CCW to somebody who is constantly threatening to kill them and all their family. Yes, they will say "ah, never mind, it's just rhetoric", I bet they will say it.
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Old 09-15-2015, 06:56 AM
 
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Here is Israel threatening Iran.

: Israel threatens ¿military action¿ if Iran refuses to stop nuclear programme as weapons equipment is intercepted on cargo ship | Daily Mail Online
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/pers...Iran-deal.html

While Iran's government is terrible on many issues, many of people hype up the non-existent threat of an Iranian nuclear weapon causing a nuclear race in the Middle East, many of those same people ignore Israel's arsenal.
You mean iike Sadaam did with WMDs? When he drew his red line in the sand. Not every world leader is as empty as his words. don't judge the ME leaders by the same meaningless rhetorical standards set by Obama.

Ever look at a map of the ME and see the size of Israel compared to the expansive countries surrounding it and who have proclaimed its destruction? It would take a fearful coward to consider Israel a unprovoked threat.

Rhode Island against the eastern half of the US would be in near proportion to Israel vs the ME enemies.

I believe the nukes were a straw dog and Iran really wanted the cash to continue its successful proxy wars all over the globe. Obama gave Iran the funds it needed to do what they do best. Nothing left to nuke by the time Iran runs the table with 150 billion dollars dedicated to terrorism with plenty left over for a golden parachute for the leaders in case the tables are turned. Nukes are Iran's insurance policy to be cashed in if their conventional war falls flat. Iran is doing quite well without nukes. Thanks to Obama and greedy EU countries looking to make huge profits.
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Old 09-15-2015, 07:33 AM
 
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While Iran's nuclear program attracts a lot of attention, most media outlets ignore Israel's stockpile.

The truth about Israel's secret nuclear arsenal | World news | The Guardian

Israel is also not a signatory of the NPT (Along with North Korea, India, and Pakistan).
The curious thing is that Arab nations like Egypt and Saudi Arabia were not threatening to develop their own nukes until Iran was nuking up.

For some reason Israel's Muslim neighbors were not threatened by a nuclear-armed Israel but they would be by a nuclear-armed Iran.
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Old 09-15-2015, 07:41 AM
 
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Just wondering if those with the "oh, they are not lunatics, they will not push the button" would react if the local authorities will grant CCW to somebody who is constantly threatening to kill them and all their family. Yes, they will say "ah, never mind, it's just rhetoric", I bet they will say it.
.... and after said person issuing threats has paid off a gang to terrorize them and their families over the last several decades. yeah, really harmless. they might not be capable of doing the job themselves due to their location, but have sure inflicted a lot of harm with their bought and paid for gang of thugs.
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Old 09-15-2015, 09:29 AM
 
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The curious thing is that Arab nations like Egypt and Saudi Arabia were not threatening to develop their own nukes until Iran was nuking up.

For some reason Israel's Muslim neighbors were not threatened by a nuclear-armed Israel but they would be by a nuclear-armed Iran.

"Egypt and Saudi Arabia were not threatening to develop their own nukes until Iran was nuking up."

Very true. Israel is the Fake boogeyman for their Muslim neighbors and Anti Israel groups alike. They may not like having Non Muslims back on ground that they conquered but they know the only real threat comes from those who have been at war with them for 1400 years.
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Old 09-15-2015, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Come 'on, that is comparing peaceful apples to warier oranges. Have you heard Israel calling for the annihilation of Iran?
I am more comfortable with a Chihuahua barking than a panther on its hunting ground.
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Old 09-15-2015, 12:42 PM
 
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Yes, I think they are fanatical enough to push the button, in the name of Allah of course.
No they would not. It would be the end of Iran. Iran does not have the capability to launch an attack on the U.S., but the U.S. could incinerate Iran at will.

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You mean iike Sadaam did with WMDs? When he drew his red line in the sand. Not every world leader is as empty as his words. don't judge the ME leaders by the same meaningless rhetorical standards set by Obama.

Ever look at a map of the ME and see the size of Israel compared to the expansive countries surrounding it and who have proclaimed its destruction? It would take a fearful coward to consider Israel a unprovoked threat.

Rhode Island against the eastern half of the US would be in near proportion to Israel vs the ME enemies.

I believe the nukes were a straw dog and Iran really wanted the cash to continue its successful proxy wars all over the globe. Obama gave Iran the funds it needed to do what they do best. Nothing left to nuke by the time Iran runs the table with 150 billion dollars dedicated to terrorism with plenty left over for a golden parachute for the leaders in case the tables are turned. Nukes are Iran's insurance policy to be cashed in if their conventional war falls flat. Iran is doing quite well without nukes. Thanks to Obama and greedy EU countries looking to make huge profits.
Iran is doing proxy wars against the Israelis (The Saudi's are also yet no one brings that up because they supposedly our "ally"). Iran is also fighting ISIS, and is an ally of the Iraq government that the U.S. installed after the overthrow of Saddam.

Iran and Saudi Arabia are doing proxy wars against each other, something the U.S. should stay out of.

Saddam used the WMD's (A lot during the Iraq-Iran War, and the U.S. still helped him with weapons and know how to build those chemical weapons). Saddam never used the chemical weapons against the U.S., and never would have.

Iran has yet to invade Israel, although all of Israel's neighbors have tried. If Iran wanted to destroy Israel they would have already tried to do it.
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Old 09-15-2015, 01:52 PM
 
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Old 09-15-2015, 02:06 PM
 
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No they would not. It would be the end of Iran. Iran does not have the capability to launch an attack on the U.S., but the U.S. could incinerate Iran at will.
Since when Islamic lunatics are concerned about death?

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Iran has yet to invade Israel, although all of Israel's neighbors have tried. If Iran wanted to destroy Israel they would have already tried to do it.
You are right, except Iran has no common borders with Israel.
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