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Old 01-28-2008, 07:46 PM
 
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Or are you suggesting that there is some sort of moral equivilence between a criminal invading my home for God knows what purpose and an unborn child, guilty of nothing more than a possible inconvenience?
What is there that would establish a moral difference? A mass of tissue of undeniably human origin is entering unbidden into the confines of one's legally established private realm. In one case, it's a house. In the other, it's a uterus. From whence cometh the right if this zygote creature to invade and take over a human uterus, threatening grave bodily harm, while yet trumping every possible right of self-defense of that uterus's owner?

And how do you drag guilt into the matter. You're talking about entirely non-sentient cells. They have no capacity for thought. They have no capacity for any but autonomic action. They cannot be either guilty or innocent of anything at all.

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And you wonder why I think liberalism is a mental disorder...
No, I have a ready explanation for that. We need not go into it in any detail...
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Old 01-28-2008, 07:51 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Give me a break, nice spin! Am I putting up billboards, or are they? Am I trying to make something illegal or are they? I am not forcing my views on anyone. Same thing can't be said for religious nuts.

Save your concerns for your own offspring.
Again do you think the PEOPLE should get to decide?
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Old 01-28-2008, 07:53 PM
 
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Again do you think the PEOPLE should get to decide?
That's the thing...as it is, the people have the right to decide.
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Old 01-28-2008, 07:55 PM
 
Location: wrong planet
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I think I should get to decide about my own body. And I will - No one else.
Final answer.
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Old 01-28-2008, 07:56 PM
 
Location: wrong planet
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That's the thing...as it is, the people have the right to decide.
Bingo... everyone can decide for themselves, but not for others.
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Old 01-28-2008, 08:02 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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That's the thing...as it is, the people have the right to decide.
Really?
I missed where the people got to decide this issue,when was it put to a vote?
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Old 01-28-2008, 08:04 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Bingo... everyone can decide for themselves, but not for others.
Actually everyone CAN'T decide,only one person gets to make the decision.

The baby(don't you think it funny that when a woman wants to be pregnant she is having a baby but when she doesn't it is a blob of cells??Weird huh?) surely has no say.

Neither does the father.
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Old 01-28-2008, 08:07 PM
 
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Neither does the father.
It isn't the father's body.
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Old 01-28-2008, 08:08 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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It isn't the womans either,it is their childs.

To add, if you believe this you of course do not think fathers should be responsible for paying if the woman wants to have the baby...right?
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Old 01-28-2008, 08:08 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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why make a fuss,there are pro life ads,there are pro choice ads,freedom of speach and suggestful persuasive debate is better at bringing your wanted change than forcing people with laws.....in most cases.
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