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Old 09-23-2015, 10:56 AM
 
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So, your position is that the Pope is in fact a leftist, right?
The Pope espouses ideology that falls on both the left and right sides of the political spectrum.

 
Old 09-23-2015, 10:56 AM
 
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The problem for you OP is that your trying to put the Pope in a box in your efforts to define his recent remarks as him trying not to be boxed in by American Politcal Ideology.
 
Old 09-23-2015, 10:57 AM
 
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Gimme a break! I find both parties repulsive so don't bother slinging insults at me, but how is it that you'll criticize democrats for spinning the Pope's message, but when evangelicals espouse conservative values, it's OK for the GOP to put their spin on it?
I see no connection between your comment, the Pope's quote, and Democratic intent. Different topic for a different thread.
 
Old 09-23-2015, 10:57 AM
 
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His quote to the media moments before landing in the US is quite telling. What part of the quote do you interpret that he is not disavowing liberalism?
The part where the person making the comment has a different reference point, since he's thinking of conservatism and liberalism in global contexts, not in the myopic American context.
 
Old 09-23-2015, 10:58 AM
 
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Burdell...your comment makes no sense. The Pope disavowed liberalism. The Pope's "moral" teachings of late play right into the liberal handbook. I'm not sure where the confusion is on your part.
Here's the thing. None of us here have the slightest bit of confusion about what you are pissed about, which is that the Pope's beliefs align better with the left than they do with the right. And you don't like it.

Period.

Or if you prefer, Amen.
 
Old 09-23-2015, 10:59 AM
 
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Here's the thing. None of us here have the slightest bit of confusion about what you are pissed about, which is that the Pope's beliefs align better with the left than they do with the right. And you don't like it.

Period.

Or if you prefer, Amen.
op is bored and baiting, can see it from a mile away.
 
Old 09-23-2015, 11:00 AM
 
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Has anybody ever wondered why the mainstream media was always so hung-ho and in love with Pope Francis when he first became Pope....while they completely ignored, to the point of disdain, Pope Benedict?

Every wonder why?
 
Old 09-23-2015, 11:00 AM
 
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Global is the operative word.

The Pope's agenda is global. He doesn't care about American politics except as it hinders or furthers his own agenda. He's not allying himself with any American political party. If they happen to agree with his agenda, he'll gladly accept their help, if they disagree with his agenda, he'll speak to that. But he's on a level outside American politics, so your claim, that he'll regret coming to the United States, is nonsensical.
You misconstrue the point. Yes, he's a global guy. And his teachings are within the teachings of the Church. But that's not the point. The point is that Democrats are seeking to co-opt his religious message for political gain. The Pope made it clear in his quote that he's not a leftist. What other way is there to interpret his quote when Democrats have made it clear they intend to capitalize off of his words for political purposes? Do you think he was merely saying he's not a leftist just for the heck of it? Or do you think he was posturing to deflect the criticisms he's sure to receive for aligning with Democrats, whether intentionally or intentionally?
 
Old 09-23-2015, 11:04 AM
 
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Here's the thing. None of us here have the slightest bit of confusion about what you are pissed about, which is that the Pope's beliefs align better with the left than they do with the right. And you don't like it.

Period.

Or if you prefer, Amen.
Thats just as ignorant as the OP's assertions.
 
Old 09-23-2015, 11:04 AM
 
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His quote to the media moments before landing in the US is quite telling. What part of the quote do you interpret that he is not disavowing liberalism?
He said that to not alienate conservatives and to say he is not part of any political camp. Simple. Unfortunately for people like you, his message is completely in sync with Obama/Dems and is a complete rebuke of the ostriching, greedy, intolerant, and short-sighted agenda of modern conservatives (that's an oxymoron if I ever heard one).
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