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The keyword is voluntary. People should be allowed to live where they want to live. And if a [insert favorite race here] family moves next door, and somebody moves because they prefer to be among [insert other favorite race here] people and, in effect, self-segregating themselves, then so be it.
You can do that now. That's how a neighborhood can end up predominantly of people from India, for instance (there is a current thread going on about that).
So what you're necessarily talking about is the power to prevent people from moving into the neighborhood that someone else is trying to "self-segregate."
Well, everyone should be opposed to government discrimination. But I'm not even sure what disallowing personal discrimination would even look like. Do you mean that you would force me to date black women?
No. I'm saying it would be fine with me if you didn't want to date black women.
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No one is honestly opposed to personal discrimination, because trying to enforce it would be absurd.
Agreed.
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The issue here is whether or not you would allow discrimination in business. And, what would happen if discrimination in business was perfectly legal(again)?
I was looking at the OP's question in the context of our living environment, i.e neighborhoods*, not in business. As for your last question - I don't know.
[this has been my approach to the question all along]
You can do that now. That's how a neighborhood can end up predominantly of people from India, for instance (there is a current thread going on about that).
So what you're necessarily talking about is the power to prevent people from moving into the neighborhood that someone else is trying to "self-segregate."
I know. And what I am saying is that the individual, and only the individual, should dictate where he move to or where he moves from.
We already segregate. Blacks live in black neighborhoods and hang out with other blacks for the most part. Whites do the same, as do Hispanics and every other race out there. People are naturally more comfortable around people of the same race.
We already segregate. Blacks live in black neighborhoods and hang out with other blacks for the most part. Whites do the same, as do Hispanics and every other race out there. People are naturally more comfortable around people of the same race.
Only because people of the same color tend to share a common culture.
People of two different colors raised in the same small town would probably feel more comfortable together than with people of the same color, from an inner city.
I was looking at the OP's question in the context of our living environment, i.e neighborhoods*, not in business. As for your last question - I don't know.
[this has been my approach to the question all along]
I hate to sound too much like a Republican, but there is no such thing as a business. There are only people. Thus, businesses are people, people are businesses.
A plumber doesn't become a non-person the moment he offers his services for public consumption.
Secondly, when you buy a house, or sell a house, or rent a house, you are a person, and you have opinions about people and groups. So would it be acceptable for someone to not sell or rent their house/apartment to someone based on the color of their skin?
If the answer is no, then you don't actually believe in voluntary segregation, or you have a strange definition of voluntary. If the answer is yes, then you must then think about what would happen if everyone was allowed to discriminate in such a way.
It is pointless for me to continue this discussion if you cannot say whether you would accept private discrimination.
We already segregate. Blacks live in black neighborhoods and hang out with other blacks for the most part. Whites do the same, as do Hispanics and every other race out there. People are naturally more comfortable around people of the same race.
I don't see that happening in the communities on the north side of Dallas or anywhere anymore when finances are not a factor (and, btw, black people who can afford better housing areas on their own income complain about Section 8 housing in their neighborhoods as much as white people do, particularly considering that was specifically what they deliberately worked hard to escape).
We had that era of racial segregation. It didn't solve any problems.
Yeah, remember those days of "separate but equal?" Neither does anybody else, because the "equal" part was never equal. We'd end up with those problems again.
And what would you do with all of the people of mixed race? Would you create a whole separate racial distinction for them? What about mixed families? Where would they go?
Are you starting to see, OP, why this is a bad idea?
With all the racial trouble that I have heard about the Main Stream media journalists never talk about racial separation as a possible solution to the racial problems in this country. Multiculturalism and integration is taken as a given with no discussion needed or allowed. Now before we come right out and advocate racial separation we can at least consider that it is a possible solution to many of our racial problems even though you may disagree with it after considering all that it entails. So why isn't it even an area of discussion? It is possibly a legitimate solution to our racial problems. It isn't nonsense like believing in flying saucers or that their might be men living inside the earth that no body has ever seen. It seems that the holier-than-thou leftist intellectuals in all their self righteous smugness think that their ideas are worthy to be implemented and no other ideas are intelligent enough to be considered.
Because there are millions of racially integrated families in this country which makes the idea a complete non-starter.
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People tend to naturally segregate themselves. So stop trying to force them to mix.
1. Get rid of minority quotas.
2. Get rid of section 8 housing.
3. Stop bussing in kids from bad neighborhoods to schools in nice neighborhoods.
4. Stop letting illegals pour into the country.
5. Get rid of all these non-sense "minority" college schollarships.
6. Cut out all of this liberal, "We need more minorities in blah blah blah" propaganda
People dont naturally segregate themselves. At least not in the way you are speaking.
Also not sure what you mean by busing kids to schools in nice neighborhoods.
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