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Old 10-09-2015, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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I'm sure it's really hard to get.
(Not like there's a pile of it on almost every farm.)
Solved the problem.. When was the last fertilizer bombing?
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Old 10-09-2015, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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So yer sayin' we need more good guys with guns? I agree.

Yes and I agree with you too. We just need to screen out the bad guys from getting guns with a thorough psychological exam in order to own a gun.
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Old 10-09-2015, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Solved the problem.. When was the last fertilizer bombing?
When was the last one before the last one?
Not an everyday occurance, is it?
Do you think a motivated bomber would be dissuaded?
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Old 10-09-2015, 05:54 PM
 
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Solved the problem.. When was the last fertilizer bombing?
doesnt matter, with a chemistry book, i can come up with a number of items that are not regulated, that you have in your home right now that can be used to make an equally effective bomb. so what do we do now, regulate chemistry books? and by the way, i can also figure a way to add a chemical weapon component to make that bomb even MORE effective. imagine if mcveigh had added something like phosgene gas or mustard gas to the mix? instead of 168 dead and 680 injured, those numbers would have gone up substantially. figure at least half again the number dead, and half again the number injured, some permanently having breathing problems.
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Old 10-09-2015, 06:00 PM
 
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Solved the problem.. When was the last fertilizer bombing?
Made DWI illegal, stopped drunk driving too.
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Old 10-09-2015, 06:07 PM
 
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Made DWI illegal, stopped drunk driving too.
yep, and ever since murder was made illegal, we ended that problem as well.
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Old 10-09-2015, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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So you would be fine with random searches of people's home to keep society safe?


The governments role is not to keep people safe, but to protect the liberties of individuals.
That would violate the 14th Amendment unless there was a warrant issued, and warrants are issued with probable cause. To issue one for no reason would be a strong case for a lawsuit.
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Old 10-09-2015, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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That would violate the 14th Amendment unless there was a warrant issued, and warrants are issued with probable cause. To issue one for no reason would be a strong case for a lawsuit.
(I'm guessin' you meant 4th?)

Who cares? If we threw out the 2nd, just tear up the 4th too.
While we're at, let's ditch that pesky 1st, too.
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Old 10-09-2015, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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I laugh when the ammosexuals say that we should not have any more gun laws, but we should enforce the ones we have. Ok, so what laws are not being enforced and why not? Have not heard any sensible or factual answers to that.

Also, define "background check." Criminal only? FBI printing and running a local check? What about people who were naughty and arrested in another country? No national or local check would cover that. What about history of child abuse investigations that are usually civil, not always criminal in nature? What about mental health and drug evaluations? A full mental health evaluation to determine propensity to abuse a weapon, or only hospitalization history? Specifically what should be included? If defining this was even a remote possibility, and if it was universally applied, it could be a start. There are more to "background checks" than most realize.

Then there is the question of all the unmonitored gun show, private, and internet sales, registration inconstancies, stolen weapons, etc. who would conduct checks in these situations? Should owners of stolen guns be prosecuted if their stolen gun was used in a crime?

it is a ****storm of a priblem to fix, and we have not even scratched the surface because of its complexity. It is obviously cheaper to ignore the problem because even simple questions are not considered. And the gun industry is more important to this country than someone's right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Funny how gun manufacturers' rights to profit are nowhere to be found in the Constitutuin, yet those rights are protected more than anyone else's. Look at the grip it has on our politicians. Until that changes we will see that mass gun killings are the trade off and the consequence, and really not much to be proud of.
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Old 10-09-2015, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Made DWI illegal, stopped drunk driving too.
Should we no longer have laws against drunk driving?
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