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Old 10-10-2015, 08:41 AM
 
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"How would a Republican-Democratic coalition work? By enlisting Democrats to help the more-mainstream Republicans in the House elect the new leadership. In exchange for Democratic votes, the new leaders would promise that any legislation that had the support of a majority of the House (including Republicans and Democrats) could be considered on the floor."

Its time for a coalition

Right now Paul Ryan is the only Republican who looks like he might be able to get to 218 (though some right wingers claim even he is not conservative enough) and he seems firm that he's not interested. If not him, who would be conservative enough to appease the Freedom Caucus and still be acceptable to the rest of the Republican caucus? I can think of no one who fits that bill.

We may be heading towards a more European style of government by coalition, and if so, the Republicans will have no one to blame but the hard line, intractable Tea Party that they invited in.

Is this an idea that you could support?

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Old 10-10-2015, 11:52 AM
 
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Dems sure are desperate.
 
Old 10-10-2015, 11:59 AM
 
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Dems sure are desperate.
That's a viewpoint.

From where I'm sitting, I'm almost enjoying the spectacle. The Republicans have a majority and can't elect a Speaker, because the sane Republicans won't give the 'baggers veto rights.
 
Old 10-10-2015, 12:00 PM
 
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I think the time has come. It's obvious that the GOP can no longer govern with the Tea Party Conservatives blocking everything. With important things like the debt ceiling and the budget just around the corner, we need a government that is capable of working. Time to bypass those whose only goal is to obstruct. Boehner has had to go this route many times already, so it's not as if it's unheard of. Time to render the minority of hardliners impotent and take control out of their hands.
 
Old 10-10-2015, 12:01 PM
 
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Originally Posted by JAMS14 View Post
"How would a Republican-Democratic coalition work? By enlisting Democrats to help the more-mainstream Republicans in the House elect the new leadership. In exchange for Democratic votes, the new leaders would promise that any legislation that had the support of a majority of the House (including Republicans and Democrats) could be considered on the floor."

Its time for a coalition

Right now Paul Ryan is the only Republican who looks like he might be able to get to 218 (though some right wingers claim even he is not conservative enough) and he seems firm that he's not interested. If not him, who would be conservative enough to appease the Freedom Caucus and still be acceptable to the rest of the Republican caucus? I can think of no one who fits that bill.

We may be heading towards a more European style of government by coalition, and if so, the Republicans will have no one to blame but the hard line, intractable Tea Party that they invited in.

Is this an idea that you could support?

This is the only way our F***ed up government will work.

Sadly, it aint gonna happen. K Street plus too many separate agendas will prevent it!

TERM LIMITS and FLUSH the Congress now!
 
Old 10-10-2015, 12:01 PM
 
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I would go for that. I think Paul Ryan would be a great choice. He's a conservative when it comes to fiscal matters, but he seems reasonable and fair enough to get along with Democrats.
 
Old 10-10-2015, 12:05 PM
 
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I would go for that. I think Paul Ryan would be a great choice. He's a conservative when it comes to fiscal matters, but he seems reasonable and fair enough to get along with Democrats.
Bwahahahah. He doesn't remotely understand fiscal matters.

As for the other part....dunno. Its not always apparent how someone negotiates outside of the spotlight. From what I have read the Democrats would not support him, but its hard to know.
 
Old 10-10-2015, 12:08 PM
 
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Bwahahahah. He doesn't remotely understand fiscal matters.

As for the other part....dunno. Its not always apparent how someone negotiates outside of the spotlight. From what I have read the Democrats would not support him, but its hard to know.
1. Well, I guess that's subjective based on your political ideology.

2. A majority of Democrats will end up voting for Nancy Pelosi anyway, but I'm sure there are some Democrats who wouldn't mind Ryan as a speaker. He's not flamboyantly partisan like some members of congress are, so that would put him on a good footing.
 
Old 10-10-2015, 12:08 PM
 
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Bwahahahah. He doesn't remotely understand fiscal matters.

As for the other part....dunno. Its not always apparent how someone negotiates outside of the spotlight. From what I have read the Democrats would not support him, but its hard to know.
Yes, I'm thinking it wouldn't be Paul Ryan, but someone that both moderate Republicans and Democrats could support. I don't have a clue who that might be, though.
 
Old 10-10-2015, 12:09 PM
 
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Yes, I'm thinking it wouldn't be Paul Ryan, but someone that both moderate Republicans and Democrats could support. I don't have a clue who that might be, though.
I'm dead serious, I think Democrats would support Paul Ryan. He got a budget passed in partnership with Sen. Patty Murray (a Democrat), which is quite an accomplishment in such a politically charged environment.
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