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Old 11-01-2015, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Originally Posted by Reynard32 View Post
GUNS = DEATH AND MAYHEM
MORE GUNS = MORE DEATH AND MAYHEM
FEWER GUNS = LESS DEATH AND MAYHEM

It's all pretty simple.

Oh yes... Liberal Utopia... We have all heard it before. It has been tried repeatedly but has never in the history of man succeeded. Do you believe in Unicorns as well?

 
Old 11-01-2015, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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Old 11-01-2015, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Originally Posted by Reynard32 View Post
GUNS = DEATH AND MAYHEM
MORE GUNS = MORE DEATH AND MAYHEM
FEWER GUNS = LESS DEATH AND MAYHEM

It's all pretty simple.

I believe the word is simplistic.
 
Old 11-01-2015, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Originally Posted by Reynard32 View Post
GUNS = DEATH AND MAYHEM
MORE GUNS = MORE DEATH AND MAYHEM
FEWER GUNS = LESS DEATH AND MAYHEM

It's all pretty simple.
It's all a pretty simple liberal fantasy, but as usual the real world doesn't reflect what liberals believe.

How exactly do you explain there being 5,000,000 new guns brought or made in the US every single year and yet the "death and mayhem" has been steadily dropping for decades?

Forbes Welcome

Oops, there's that darn reality getting in the way of your liberal fantasy again.
 
Old 11-01-2015, 12:31 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Reynard32 View Post
GUNS = DEATH AND MAYHEM
MORE GUNS = MORE DEATH AND MAYHEM
FEWER GUNS = LESS DEATH AND MAYHEM

It's all pretty simple.
Yep, you are simple.
 
Old 11-01-2015, 12:37 PM
 
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Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer View Post
Pipe dream. I have bullet molds and an endless supply of lead. I cal reload each case a min of 10 times maybe 100. If I'm frugal my ammo supply will be used by my great grand kids.


In other words HA
and even if you didnt have the bullet molds, you could make them easily enough, same with gun powder. and with a little effort, you can make shell casings and primers, and lead is available just about everywhere, though fulminate of mercury is a little harder to get, it is still also available.
 
Old 11-01-2015, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Originally Posted by rbohm View Post
and even if you didnt have the bullet molds, you could make them easily enough, same with gun powder. and with a little effort, you can make shell casings and primers, and lead is available just about everywhere, though fulminate of mercury is a little harder to get, it is still also available.

Shotgun shells were made of rolled wax paper for years. Single-shot powder rifles don't use any brass, and there's a prototype nitrogen-powered rifle that shoots hundreds of .22 caliber BB's at 1400fps. It's probably more lethal than an AK, although far less immediate killing potential. The weapon is modeled after an air soft rifle and doesn't go boom. Kitchen knives are still sold at Walmart and ad we saw in Oklahoma last week a car is a deadly weapon.

The liberal obsession with saving lives runs counter to their position on inner-city thugs. Go figure.
 
Old 11-01-2015, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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That isn't ever going to happen in this country either, so what should we do as a country to prevent mass shootings that have become very common?
There are bills sitting in Congress at this very moment that would ban most or all center-fire rifle ammunition, that would bascially be a de facto ban on most rifles. Now whether that was done by design or out of ignorance of guns, I don't know.

Obviously a bill like that will never pass in this congress, but a congress packed with Democrats? Anything could happen at this point.
 
Old 11-01-2015, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Lay in the path of progress as you will, but I am not sure if America is becoming more or less patient with the voice of no compromise. I suppose only time will tell...
Anyone who isn't living under a rock can tell you the answer to that...

We are now living in a system where split control of govewrnment, essentially means there is no govenment because nothing gets done.

For better or worse, the right is drifting further to the right, and the left is drifting further to the left.

This country has never been as polarized as it is now.
 
Old 11-01-2015, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Itinerant
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Originally Posted by Reynard32 View Post
GUNS = DEATH AND MAYHEM
MORE GUNS = MORE DEATH AND MAYHEM
FEWER GUNS = LESS DEATH AND MAYHEM

It's all pretty simple.
Yup, riddle me this then batman... (rates are last published)

High per capita gun ownership

Iceland guns per 100 pop 30.3 intentional homicide rate 0.3/100,000
Switzerland guns per 100 pop 45.7 intentional homicide rate 0.6/100,000
Sweden guns per 100 pop 31.6 intentional homicide rate 0.7/100,000
Austria guns per 100 pop 30.4 intentional homicide rate 0.7/100,000
Germany guns per 100 pop 30.3 intentional homicide rate 0.8/100,000
France guns per 100 pop 31.2 intentional homicide rate 1.0/100,000

Low per capita gun ownership

United Kingdom guns per 100 pop 6.5 intentional homicide rate 1.0
Portugal guns per 8.5 pop 4.9 intentional homicide rate 1.2
Ireland guns per 100 pop 4.3 intentional homicide rate 1.2
Poland guns per 100 pop 1.3 intentional homicide rate 1.2

So France (which has the highest of the European homicide rate listed for high per capita gun ownership) has a homicide rate equal to the UK, but nearly 5 times more guns in private ownership. Germany, Austria, Sweden, Switzerland and Iceland all have 4-5 times more guns than the UK and lower homicide rates. Even the UK has higher per capita guns that Ireland and Poland but lower homicide rates

At the extremes Iceland has ~25 times more guns in private ownership than Poland, and 1/4 of the homicide rate (this isn't the Poland of the 1950's it has a higher GDP than the Netherlands and a HDI Coefficient not much lower than Italy)

In fact Europe has 8 out of the top 15 countries for private gun ownership rates (6 are listed), but very few countries in Europe break the 2.0/100,000 rate of homicides, none of those 8 countries exceed 2.0/100,000 (the highest being Cyprus with a 2.0/100 homicide rate and 36.1 per 100 guns per capita, and it also still has the final throes of the Ottoman/Byzantine empire conflict ongoing).
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