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What the chastened progressive-left is doing today by saying Obama is neither or rw, is a cardinal example of what its demoralized antecedents did mid-century with its Socialist German Workers Party leader. By the book.
Yet again, disavowels, attempts to cleanse their hands of their embarrassing choices when they detect that the public discovers and disapproves of progressivism's dark underbelly.
Who said anything about Obama? Rejecting your ignorance does not make anyone left or right, it just makes them better informed than you.
Distaste of progressive social policy such as immigration and feminism has started the rise of the far-right in Europe, and I haven't seen anything suggesting that this is merely temporary. So I have a question for progressives and their supporters: If the rise of the far-right doesn't stop and they continue to grow in power to a point of being a major political force (which they already appear to be in some nations), then what are you planning on doing? How will you adopt your political strategy to respond to this? I am legitimately curious, because I can't help but wonder how you intend to make your ideas and policies survive if they have created so much hatred that it results in the political rise of literal nazis rather than just right-wingers that you try to degrade by merely calling them that.
I don't think the immigration policies have changed a lot in Europe, the situation around Europe has changed, so there are more immigrants. Europeans are not blaming 'progressives' for creating the situation, they know better than that. Some far-right parties have risen, and are being labeled as 'nazis' by people who don't like them. In Europe they are known as 'populist' parties, which tend to pop up to advertise themselves as the solution to whatever problem happens to be the top-topic. Right now the theme is anti-immigration. In US we only have two parties, so we'll never see populist parties pop up like that.
Don't devolve this thread into a argument on whether the nazis were leftist or rightist. I don't care for it.
My point was merely that the far-right isn't merely a more extreme version of conservatism.
You call them far-right because they oppose immigration, but a closer look at their other policies place them well to the left of Dems in US. They are fiscally left-wing and socially conservative, so the term "far-right" is very misleading. The European left-wing, which revolves around the cradle-to-grave welfare programs are not too concerned about the populist parties because the populists won't do anything about the welfare programs.
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I would hope they, along with Bernie Sanders move to one of those European countries they love so much. Good luck dodging the terrorists, oops, I mean "refugees" without any guns to protect yourselves and your family. Bye!
Distaste of progressive social policy such as immigration and feminism has started the rise of the far-right in Europe, and I haven't seen anything suggesting that this is merely temporary.
Yeah I'll answer your question
But first I must state that opposing immigration and feminism are not limited to "Far right" views in America. They are common in the center-right and even to some extent the center-left.
Of course, I'm assuming that you're precise with your language, and that when you say "Immigration" you aren't actually referring to work visas, illegal border crossings, or working without authorization -- none of which are matters of immigration. (Immigration, of course, being the legal method of entering the country and gaining citizenship.)
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So I have a question for progressives and their supporters: If the rise of the far-right doesn't stop and they continue to grow in power to a point of being a major political force (which they already appear to be in some nations), then what are you planning on doing?
I don't plan to do anything.
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How will you adopt your political strategy to respond to this?
I don't have a political strategy.
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I am legitimately curious, because I can't help but wonder how you intend to make your ideas and policies survive if they have created so much hatred that it results in the political rise of literal nazis rather than just right-wingers that you try to degrade by merely calling them that.
.....and the mask of sanity slips , showing OP's true nature.
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