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Old 11-14-2015, 08:17 AM
 
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You have got to be kidding me. Are you seriously under the impression that one human being can't have a Progressive view on some things and a Conservative view on others? You are proving my point here. The list is way too long and complicated to list in this inane forum, but here are a few examples:

Against invading Iraq and getting involved in 10+ years of war only to destabilize the Middle East
Against supporting Israel or ANY Middle Eastern country
Against regressive Feminism
Against police brutality and over-reaching of government privacy invasion as a whole (Patriot act bs)
I don't believe in "white guilt"
I do believe there is still systematic racism, but it is a complex issue
In favor of stricter gun policy and more intense background tests. It should take as much work to get a gun as it does to get a drivers license. I am against taking away any guns, however.
Increased crack-down on tax breaks corporations receive, and increased taxes on the 1%
Universal healthcare, which will take a while to perfect but is a noble cause
Atheist.
Legalize cannabis. De-fund the DEA.
Reduce military spending. Increase Education and Infrastructure spending.
Make sure our schools are run properly, and teachers are paid well. Make sure religious BS is kept to religion classes. Stop teaching to test for state exams.
Corporations aren't people.
Enforce legal immigration and make it easier to legally become a citizen. Secure the border, but don't spend billions on deporting people like Trump wants.


And on and on and on...you could ask any issue and I have my own educated opinion on it. I probably have a progressive ideology on 70% of issues, but it varies widely. Do you understand nuance yet?
I ask a simple question and I get a storm of condescension.

And then you talk about "nuance."

Maybe you shouldn't assume that other people are so one-dimensional.

I don't think anyone here is in complete lockstep with a single ideology.

Even I believe that a monarch (hopefully myself) shouldn't have absolute power -- only somewhat absolute.
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Old 11-14-2015, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Limbo
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This thread is full of idiotic rhetoric and quite disgusting. I find it sad what this forum has turned into. Anyway, I know there are other sections of this site that are less of a cesspool of crap.
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Old 11-14-2015, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh (via Chicago, via Pittsburgh)
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I ask a simple question and I get a storm of condescension.

And then you talk about "nuance."

Maybe you shouldn't assume that other people are so one-dimensional.

I don't think anyone here is in complete lockstep with a single ideology.

Even I believe that a monarch (hopefully myself) shouldn't have absolute power -- only somewhat absolute.
You can honestly read this forum and say people aren't one dimensional? Good one. I'm going to stop coming here soon, its a bullsh1t fest of radicalism. Not good for sanity.
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Old 11-14-2015, 08:20 AM
 
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Not only this, but we have provided weapons and training to areas of the Middle East for years, firstly under Bush. It's hysterical how dimwitted this forum is. I'm guessing the average age is under 15 and over 70..just a few stragglers in between.

You conservatives keep bringing up this college campus BS, and fail to realize that NOT EVERYONE GIVES A SH1T. Not all realist Progressives care whatsoever about that issue right now. We are sick of people being offended by Starbucks and Campbell soup to care about anything else regarding "offensiveness". Stop using this as your own and only argument. Guess what, I'm a Progressive and I don't care about "safe spaces". Stop with the simple minded Team Red and Team Blue RAH RAH RAH mentality. It sounds desperate, childish and uneducated.
The only people I hear go on about the Starbucks cups are liberals. It's another false flag, just as you say the college campus thing is...except the college campus thing so far has already forced one person out of his job for nothing, and groups on several other campuses are calling for the removal of their presidents/deans. So that one goes just a little too far into being an actual problem.

Your last sentence I can completely agree with.
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Old 11-14-2015, 08:21 AM
 
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Meanwhile... the gilded one...will to allow 200,000 Muslims into our country...which we have no way of vetting. Allahu Akbar. Fubar!
Quit ringing the paranoid alarm. Muslim does not equal terrorist. Muslims suffer more from radical Islam than any other group

We currently have millions of Muslims here. A million plus Iranians came when the Shah fell. Another few hundred thousand Iraqis. Seems that all are adjusting just fine.
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Old 11-14-2015, 08:22 AM
 
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You can honestly read this forum and say people aren't one dimensional? Good one.
Well, let's see....

Someone sensibly connected the anti-free-speech antics of college students to Islamic radicals who are against freedom in general, and you accused that person of not thinking for him or herself but rather parroting Rush Limbaugh.

You had no basis for that accusation.
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Old 11-14-2015, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh (via Chicago, via Pittsburgh)
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The only people I hear go on about the Starbucks cups are liberals. It's another false flag, just as you say the college campus thing is...except the college campus thing so far has already forced one person out of his job for nothing, and groups on several other campuses are calling for the removal of their presidents/deans. So that one goes just a little too far into being an actual problem.

Your last sentence I can completely agree with.
No...you must have missed when the Conservative Darling Trump got a round of applause when he said he wanted to boycott starbucks. It was very much a Conservative issue, many progressives just think it was humorous. Who says I think the dean should have lost his job? I don't agree with these students at all. Lots of Progressives don't agree with them, including myself.
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Old 11-14-2015, 08:24 AM
 
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Quit ringing the paranoid alarm. Muslim does not equal terrorist. Muslims suffer more from radical Islam than any other group

We currently have millions of Muslims here. A million plus Iranians came when the Shah fell. Another few hundred thousand Iraqis. Seems that all are adjusting just fine.
So you think we don't need to thoroughly vet them?

When ISIS has declared its intent to infiltrate them?
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Old 11-14-2015, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Arlington VA
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Thr Imam in Chief has been trying to overthrow Assad for 3 years so radical Islamists can take over. Just like he did in Libya.


I had no idea the Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu was an "Imam".
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Old 11-14-2015, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh (via Chicago, via Pittsburgh)
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Well, let's see....

Someone sensibly connected the anti-free-speech antics of college students to Islamic radicals who are against freedom in general, and you accused that person of not thinking for him or herself but rather parroting Rush Limbaugh.

You had no basis for that accusation.
You missed a million times when I say I don't agree with those college students. But to say they somehow encouraged ISIS to blow up a concert venue in Paris is quite absurd.
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