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In America, it's the "liberals" who are tough on terrorism. It was President Obama who successfully nabbed Bin Laden and decimated Al-Qaeda, which ran wild when Dumbya Bush was in office.
Conservatives, meanwhile, want to spend trillions of American taxpayer dollars overthrowing secular dictators (i.e., Saddam Hussein), which de-stabiilizes the Middle East and allows Islamic fundamentalism to run wild. ISIS is the direct result of failed GOP policies in the ME.
And don't take my word for it. Just ask Trump (the current clown leading the GOP freak show). Even he admits it.
As far as the Paris attacks are concerned, that's a French problem. Let them deal with it. The US cannot be the world's policeman forever. The Euros need to step up.
ISIS is the result of us training and arming Syrian "rebels" to fight Assad for us.
Those secret training camps in Turkey and Jordan happened under Obama's watch.
The US has been using radicalized Muslims to do our bidding since the 80's.
I dont know what you are talking about. A liberal (Obama) got the worlds most wanted terrorist (Bin Laden) while conservatives (Bush and Cheney) were ok with Bin Laden running loose around the world.
Not only that--it was the neocons who invaded Iraq and started this mess.
They could have shut this down back in 2002, but chose to invade a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, instead, leaving it to the next admin to find and kill bin Laden. The conservative administration directed all of our resources to Iraq instead of going after al qaeda and its band of extremist muslims when they had the chance. George H. Bush pretty much admitted that recently.
Those who are attacking liberals now are like angry school children looking for a quick fix--someone to blame and attack. They might take a more thoughtful perspective, look back at the history and see that the seeds of ISIS were planted with the Iraq invasion, but that seems to be asking too much of them.
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It seems simplistic ways of thinking preclude some Liberals from seeing how these seemingly unrelated issues, Islamic terrorism and our current trend in college fascism, are very related. I have no interest in explaining a complex issue to them, however.
No, the thing is you think you have had some made up revelation, when in reality its something Rush Limbaugh told you is true and you immediately believe it and pretend you know something others don't (TEAM RED RAH RAH)
Not only that--it was the neocons who invaded Iraq and started this mess.
They could have shut this down back in 2002, but chose to invade a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, instead, leaving it to the next admin to find and kill bin Laden. The conservative administration directed all of our resources to Iraq instead of going after al qaeda and its band of extremist muslims when they had the chance. George H. Bush pretty much admitted that recently.
Those who are attacking liberals now are like angry school children looking for a quick fix--someone to blame and attack. They might take a more thoughtful perspective, look back at the history and see that the seeds of ISIS were planted with the Iraq invasion, but that seems to be asking too much of them.
Do you really think all this started with the Iraq invasion ?
Go back further to the 70's even when the CIA backed and used the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
Then you have the 80's and the birth of Bin Laden and AQ thanks again to the CIA.
What is the sense of allowing immigration from countries like the muslim middle east and other countries that have long been full of turmoil and high crime levels?
If one must allow in more immigration despite the US being overpopulated, just take people from western countries, allies, and cultures that have demonstrated being peaceful and orderly.
Not all Eastern cultures are bad, and certainly not all people in Muslim countries are bad. It's just too bad we can't tell who is or isn't. The truth of the matter is that if Germany let in one million Chinese immigrants, it would be a net benefit to Germany. Letting in one million Muslim immigrants is going to have the opposite effect, because the first generation of Muslim immigrants are nice and beneficial to the country because they remember what their own countries were like and appreciate the benefits of the new country. It's the second and third generation Muslims that get radicalized in their Mosques and create this mess.
I dont know what you are talking about. A liberal (Obama) got the worlds most wanted terrorist (Bin Laden) while conservatives (Bush and Cheney) were ok with Bin Laden running loose around the world.
Meanwhile... the gilded one...will to allow 200,000 Muslims into our country...which we have no way of vetting. Allahu Akbar. Fubar!
#1 Obreezey is bringing in 185,000 Syrians with ISIS trying to infiltrate the numbers, but Obama will ask them questions to see if they are terrorists - so no worries. Hillary supports this policy. Our Muslim population is growing even without this.
#2 French citizens can freely travel here. They are our ally.
I think with the current immigration policies of Europe, we need to rethink our free travel between countries deal. I wouldn't blame Europe for feeling the same way about the U.S.
It's ignorant people out there that for some strange reason believe we will win them over one day.
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Fubar!
Hillary supports this policy. Our Muslim population is growing even without this.
