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Old 12-03-2015, 07:31 AM
 
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The shooters were white.

San Bernardino Police Chief said up to three people.

I can buy that. Arabs are often "white"... genetically, phenotypically, often very "white"... but in America in 2015, if a guy named John Smith shot Farood Saeed, the narrative would be, "crazy white guy kills brown Muslim!"

#stopwhitepeople2015!


Just like George Zimmerman. Perpetrator is part white, emphasize whiteness. Victim is part white, emphasize non-white identity.

 
Old 12-03-2015, 07:33 AM
 
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Thank you for acknowledging that most of the guns used in these acts of terror were acquired legally. That proves that we need to make it harder for everyone to get a gun, criminal or not.
Exactly. It's the fact that guns are so easily, readily and legally available that is the problem. But the answer here seems to be, MORE GUNS!! It's asinine, but that's the mindset that keeps us in more mass shootings than there are days of the year.
 
Old 12-03-2015, 07:33 AM
 
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Thank you for acknowledging that most of the guns used in these acts of terror were acquired legally. That proves that we need to make it harder for everyone to get a gun, criminal or not.
What would you have done to prevent this from happening without reducing the rights of American citizens?
 
Old 12-03-2015, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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They sound contained to most of us you! As Obama said they were.
Capitals

When Obama said "contained" he was referring to physical containment within Syria. Before the interview with Stephanopolis concluded, some online media had already edited his remark out of context and put it on the net.

Ideology cannot be contained.
 
Old 12-03-2015, 07:34 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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It was Islamic Terrorism. Without a doubt. Stop the spin and excuses and call it what it is already. This was planned well in advance, it wasn't workplace violence like you are trying to suggest.
I'm not spinning anything. It is a fact that the guy worked in the building he shot up. And it is a fact that the couple acquired guns, gears and made bombs in advance but investigators on the ground STILL DON'T KNOW their motivates and neither do you so don't act like you do. It could very well be a combination of workplace violence and Islamic terror all rolled into one. Either way the couple were sick bastards. Those same people he shot at and/or killed threw him a baby shower not long ago, for crying out loud!
 
Old 12-03-2015, 07:34 AM
 
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What would you have done to prevent this from happening without reducing the rights of American citizens?
What about the rights of the victims of these mass shootings? Why does no one ever talk about that?
 
Old 12-03-2015, 07:36 AM
 
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Exactly. It's the fact that guns are so easily, readily and legally available that is the problem. But the answer here seems to be, MORE GUNS!! It's asinine, but that's the mindset that keeps us in more mass shootings than there are days of the year.
We already have more guns than people in this country. I guess the right wing gun lovers think that everyone needs at least TWO guns for all of us to be safe. Two guns, body armor, maybe a medical kit, some food rations...it can be like the video game "Fallout" come to life, all over the USA. God bless America!
 
Old 12-03-2015, 07:37 AM
 
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What about the rights of the victims of these mass shootings? Why does no one ever talk about that?
Oh I don't know...why don't Obama-supporting liberals don't say a peep when illegal immigrants kill folks like Kate Steinle in cold blood?
 
Old 12-03-2015, 07:39 AM
 
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What about the rights of the victims of these mass shootings? Why does no one ever talk about that?
They believe those people have the right to stay dead.
 
Old 12-03-2015, 07:41 AM
 
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It's still too early in the investigation to call it an act of ISIS terrorism. All the investigators on the ground certainly are NOT ready to call it that. Yes, one of the shooters was an American born Muslim but so far they are not finding anything else to connect him to ISIS or to a manifest. He also worked at the place he shot up and had an argument with someone at the party just before going home and loading up on weapons. To understand what happened we need to not jump to conclusions and let the evidence take the investigation where ever it goes. You could be right in the end. You could be wrong. It doesn't help to spread humors in the meantime until we know all the facts that can be found. If you truly are in law enforcement, I'd think you'd know the difference between letting the evidence lead you instead of having a foregone conclusion and looking for evidence to support it.
So - your theory is the "shooter" got mad ......
Left the party and went home
Gathered up weapons and pipe-bombs that he had laying around
Gathered plenty of extra ammo
Put on his Body Armor that he had laying around & the mask
Told his wife to get her Body Armor on and a mask
Got himself and the little wife outfitted with the GoPro cameras to record the "fun".
Called Grandma to ask if she could babysit
Loaded up the kid and off to Grandma's house

Returned to the Party and slaughtered 14 people and shot another equal+ number.
All of that because he was "mad" ...... makes perfect sense in the Leftist mind.
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