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Old 12-03-2015, 07:25 AM
 
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It's still too early in the investigation to call it an act of ISIS terrorism. All the investigators on the ground certainly are NOT ready to call it that. Yes, one of the shooters was an American born Muslim but so far they are not finding anything else to connect him to ISIS or to a manifest. He also worked at the place he shot up and had an argument with someone at the party just before going home and loading up on weapons. To understand what happened we need to not jump to conclusions and let the evidence take the investigators where ever it goes. You could be right in the end. You could be wrong. It doesn't help to spread humors in the meantime until we know all the facts that can be found. If you truly are in law enforcement, I'd think you'd know the difference between letting the evidence lead you instead of having a foregone conclusion and looking for evidence to support it.
And, it might have been caused by a You Tube video.

 
Old 12-03-2015, 07:25 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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These two bought weapons legally. Exactly what do the hand wringers think we should do that would prevent this in the future ?
 
Old 12-03-2015, 07:26 AM
 
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It's still too early in the investigation to call it an act of ISIS terrorism. All the investigators on the ground certainly are NOT ready to call it that. Yes, one of the shooters was an American born Muslim but so far they are not finding anything else to connect him to ISIS or to a manifest. He also worked at the place he shot up and had an argument with someone at the party just before going home and loading up on weapons. To understand what happened we need to not jump to conclusions and let the evidence take the investigators where ever it goes. You could be right in the end. You could be wrong. It doesn't help to spread humors in the meantime until we know all the facts that can be found. If you truly are in law enforcement, I'd think you'd know the difference between letting the evidence lead you instead of having a foregone conclusion and looking for evidence to support it.
It was Islamic Terrorism. Without a doubt. Stop the spin and excuses and call it what it is already. This was planned well in advance, it wasn't workplace violence like you are trying to suggest.
 
Old 12-03-2015, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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It's still too early in the investigation to call it an act of ISIS terrorism. All the investigators on the ground certainly are NOT ready to call it that. Yes, one of the shooters was an American born Muslim but so far they are not finding anything else to connect him to ISIS or to a manifest. He also worked at the place he shot up and had an argument with someone at the party just before going home and loading up on weapons. To understand what happened we need to not jump to conclusions and let the evidence take the investigators where ever it goes. You could be right in the end. You could be wrong. It doesn't help to spread humors in the meantime until we know all the facts that can be found. If you truly are in law enforcement, I'd think you'd know the difference between letting the evidence lead you instead of having a foregone conclusion and looking for evidence to support it.
yeah, that is what they're telling us? Come on? wake the heck up....
Was Boston simply a hmmmm, what would you call it?

How bout the attacks on our military right here in the U.S.?

What does it take to wake you people up?

And then to believe what the media is reporting, come on?

No one is saying it's ISIS, ISIS isn't the only terroristic threat? Or didn't you know that? Terrorism comes from many different cultures....not just ISIS, and if we would have stayed in the middle east, like we should have, ISIS wouldn't have gained any ground.
 
Old 12-03-2015, 07:28 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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It was Islamic Terrorism. Without a doubt. Stop the spin and excuses and call it what it is already. This was planned well in advance, it wasn't workplace violence like you are trying to suggest.
Just think if they managed to hole up and use those remote controlled IEDs. They probably would have had to add a bunch of LE deaths too.
 
Old 12-03-2015, 07:30 AM
 
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Just think if they managed to hole up and use those remote controlled IEDs. They probably would have had to add a bunch of LE deaths too.
Yup, luckily they didn't go off.
 
Old 12-03-2015, 07:30 AM
 
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These two bought weapons legally. Exactly what do the hand wringers think we should do that would prevent this in the future ?
Thank you for acknowledging that most of the guns used in these acts of terror were acquired legally. That proves that we need to make it harder for everyone to get a gun, criminal or not.
 
Old 12-03-2015, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Here
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Originally Posted by Wayland Woman View Post
It's still too early in the investigation to call it an act of ISIS terrorism. All the investigators on the ground certainly are NOT ready to call it that. Yes, one of the shooters was an American born Muslim but so far they are not finding anything else to connect him to ISIS or to a manifest. He also worked at the place he shot up and had an argument with someone at the party just before going home and loading up on weapons. To understand what happened we need to not jump to conclusions and let the evidence take the investigation where ever it goes. You could be right in the end. You could be wrong. It doesn't help to spread humors in the meantime until we know all the facts that can be found. If you truly are in law enforcement, I'd think you'd know the difference between letting the evidence lead you instead of having a foregone conclusion and looking for evidence to support it.
He didn't say it was ISIS. He said it was Islamic Terrorism. You do know ISIS is not the only game in town when it comes to nutjob Islamic radicals that like to kill people right?
 
Old 12-03-2015, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Just another day in the good old USofA.

well you could always move to France.
 
Old 12-03-2015, 07:31 AM
 
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Thank you for acknowledging that most of the guns used in these acts of terror were acquired legally. That proves that we need to make it harder for everyone to get a gun, criminal or not.
Yes, because making it harder for law-abiding citizens to get guns legally will surely prevent criminals from getting them.



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