Here We Go Again: Mass Shooting in San Bernardino CA (AR15, newspaper)

[Ih2puo]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

No I'm not. The same list that you claim should not be used to keep people from buying guns is used to deny visas and airline travel, how is it ok to deny a person travel but allow them to buy a gun, that simply makes no sense.

What amendment guarantees American citizens the right to fly commercial?

What simply shouldn't make sense is the rabid support to simply disregard the constitution of the United States.

But we have to do something so we get the patriot act, tsa and government lists.

[dpm1]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

Yes they were legal guns that were converted illegally and very easily, sounds like a good candidate for a ban wouldn't you agree.

Converted to what exactly? A format legal in 40 other states? A format that is no more dangerous?

[chucksnee]

Originally Posted by jojajn

If you actually read the articles I posted, you might get your answers. Yes, I read to learn. Few people are born with knowledge about everything.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/us...-obtained.html

I want your answers.....not what you think someone else wrote, who you think maybe right....

And even the, you are not even following your own answers.....come on jojo, at least follow your own responses...

[chucksnee]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

Yes they were legal guns that were converted illegally and very easily, sounds like a good candidate for a ban wouldn't you agree.

And how did that happen? What made them illegal?


Did the shooter buy those guns?

What is very easily? Please tell us.....

Whenever I order anything gun related on line that very first thing that comes up is "if you live in CA" we cannot ship this.....

So, your failure is noted..

[dpm1]

Originally Posted by chucksnee

And how did that happen? What made them illegal?


Did the shooter buy those guns?

What is very easily? Please tell us.....

Whenever I order anything gun related on line that very first thing that comes up is "if you live in CA" we cannot ship this.....

So, your failure is noted..

I hate that message for Massachusetts

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by dpm1

How is it ok to deny a person travel but allow them access to the internet or telephone from which they could be recruiting on? How about this. Subjecting fundamental rights to executive fiat is a terrible idea and is downright stalinist

Now you're being silly

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

There is now a process to get off of the list, that was not in effect when the 5 year old and Ted Kennedy were on the list. How does a person buy a gun if the FBI background check comes back showing that they were convicted of a felony or had been confined to a mental hospital - that happens too, but it's hardly a compelling argument to quit doing background checks.

The ACLU has sued on behalf of people that cannot get off the list.

Whatever process the government has detailed does not work.

https://www.aclu.org/cases/latif-et-...nt-no-fly-list

[dpm1]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Now you're being silly

So its not ok to restrict the 1A with secret lists but it is ok to restrict the 2A?

How exactly is that silly? If one right is subject to executive fiat why not another?

[Bulldogdad]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

Yes they were legal guns that were converted illegally and very easily, sounds like a good candidate for a ban wouldn't you agree.

You have no idea what the heck your talking about.

I've been dealing with this crap from people like you in the Kommiefornia legislature since the late 80's.

They've had almost 30 years now and still are dumbfounded.

[freightshaker]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

Yes they were legal guns that were converted illegally and very easily, sounds like a good candidate for a ban wouldn't you agree.

Converted to what? A lamp? An ashtray? Please be specific. A link supporting your assertions would certainly be helpful as well. My assertion is that you have no idea what you are talking about.