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Old 12-07-2015, 11:00 PM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by LexusNexus View Post
The REPUBLICAN choices are obviously pathetic. If you can't see that, then STAY HOME.
Just one more Terrorist attack and any Republican will be handed the the Presidency on a silver platter. Just see what happened with this current incident.
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Just one more Terrorist attack and any Republican will be handed the the Presidency on a silver platter. Just see what happened with this current incident.
Yeah, hang you hopes on that


You seem to forget Americans have a 10 Second attention span, meaning by the time the elections come around nearly a year from now many events will have taken place and the trending topic of the day will change many times.
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
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Right now, a bigot and a criminal are the frontrunners. Not good.
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Laurentia
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the problem is almost all these people are CAREER politicians. They have been corrupted by the system. It's gotten to their head and has become less about serving the people and more about serving their own interests, power, and various lobbying groups.
Yes, and when I suggest replacing election with sortition, people dream up all sorts of excuses as to how it is impractical and how a jury-like body of ordinary people can't possibly rise up to the level of competence and expertise the gods...er, the career politicians possess. If you ask me it's a sick joke - the Greek democracies, Athens being the most powerful and most well known to us, were almost indisputably governed better then than America is now, considering how they enabled a population no bigger than a modern-day suburb to create what we would recognize as Western culture.

Less radically, banning re-elections would help, since that would at least eliminate the advantages of incumbency in every election. It wouldn't help the fact that elections, particularly over large districts where it is impossible for a large majority of voters to personally get to know the candidates, intrinsically favor those who are rich, powerful, and already famous - that's why in both America and Rome, and to a lesser extent most other present-day electoral democracies, the legislatures tend to become millionaire's clubs. Obviously in less-democratic regimes that problem is even worse, but we shouldn't use that as an excuse not to do better.

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I agree. well said. Bolded = Truth for me too.
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Just one more Terrorist attack and any Republican will be handed the the Presidency on a silver platter. Just see what happened with this current incident.
I'm not aware of any significant surge in support for the Republican candidates in the head-to-head polls, nor is there much movement within either primary race aside from Carson falling and Cruz rising, and, his foreign policy being quite decent coming from a Texas Republican Senator notwithstanding, Cruz certainly isn't reputed to be any foreign policy mastermind.

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Jim Webb!

Pay Up!

But yeah, those who are likely are a sad commentary on the dregs that are apparently the only thing the major parties can come up with from more than 300,000,000 people.
It is my longstanding rule of thumb that as the size of an organization increases linearly, inefficiency increases exponentially. That's why the top countries in most measures of good outcomes (life expectancy, wealth, etc.) are disproportionately small countries. If you plot most positive outcomes against the size of each country, there's a strong correlation - small countries have good outcomes, large countries have bad outcomes. As with most things there are exceptions, the U.S. being the most obvious.
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Old 12-08-2015, 08:37 AM
 
Location: The South
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Trump and Cruz or Cruz and Trump. Then again, I would vote for a rock over hillary.
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Old 12-08-2015, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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It doesn't seem like the right people will run for president any longer. We just don't get them for whatever the reason. I think its a symptom of a bigger problem. I think our society has faltered so much, it can't seem to get back on track. Our Gov't seems to be a disaster and it just didn't start with Obama, its been building for a long time. Congress and many of the politicians we have are a complete disgrace, and should be removed from their jobs. I don't know what the answer is. I think unless the Media totally ruins Trump and Clinton. Then obviously one of them will be the President. This shows just how bad off the country really is, with these people as our choices. Who would ever guess Trump would have lasted this long. My guess is it will be Clinton, when the final votes are in. You never know though until its all over.
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Old 12-08-2015, 03:53 PM
 
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You should stand with Rand.
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Old 12-08-2015, 03:55 PM
 
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So for those who don't like your choices, who would you like to see run?
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Old 12-08-2015, 04:01 PM
 
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So for those who don't like your choices, who would you like to see run?
Jon Stewart.

Colin Powell.

Michael Bloomberg.

Kim Kardashian.
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Old 12-08-2015, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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I think I'll vote for Cher
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