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The argument against barring those listed on the No Fly List from purchasing a firearm seems to be problems with the No Fly List itself. If that is the case can the list be fix?
its more than just the list, its the fact that there is little to no recourse should one be put on the list wrongly. it isnt a matter of just fixing the list, its a matter of the list is unconstitutional in the first place.
The argument against barring those listed on the No Fly List from purchasing a firearm seems to be problems with the No Fly List itself. If that is the case then fix the list!
The only way to fix the list is to require due process (in other words, participation of the courts, with the would-be listee given full opportunity to defend himself) before a person's name can be added to the list. Do you see a way to do that? Because I don't, apart from formally charging the listee with a crime and taking him to trial.
The only real way to fix it is scrap it. It goes against everything this country has ever stood for.
Kind of odd how in the president's words, banning foreign Muslims from entering this country is somehow "against everything America stands for". But revoking the civil rights of AMERICANS on some arbitrary list, with no evidence of wrong doing, no trial and no standard of justice, is just hunky dory.
Obama is the first US president that cares more about the sensibilities of foreigners than about the safety and civil rights of American citizens.
The argument against barring those listed on the No Fly List from purchasing a firearm seems to be problems with the No Fly List itself. If that is the case can the list be fix?
Yes, but it would require a complete overhaul, with some standards and procedures created. Right now there are no standards, anyone can get on the list for any reason, and there is zero oversight.
People are put on list just because someone has some suspicions, that's it. They do not need to follow up on these weak and unsubstantiated suspicions. It's as simple as "hmmmm, XYZ American citizen traveled to Kuwait three times last month, put him on the list."
kind of odd how in the president's words, banning foreign muslims from entering this country is somehow "against everything america stands for". But revoking the civil rights of americans on some arbitrary list, with no evidence of wrong doing, no trial and no standard of justice, is just hunky dory.
Obama is the first us president that cares more about the sensibilities of foreigners than about the safety and civil rights of american citizens.
The argument against barring those listed on the No Fly List from purchasing a firearm seems to be problems with the No Fly List itself. If that is the case can the list be fix?
The obvious "fix": provide evidence, seek indictments, and arrest for terrorism... indicted criminals cannot buy guns legally.
its more than just the list, its the fact that there is little to no recourse should one be put on the list wrongly. it isnt a matter of just fixing the list, its a matter of the list is unconstitutional in the first place.
You CAN get off. My son was put on "the list" when he was 5 years old. It took about ten years, but he was finally removed from the list.
Kind of odd how in the president's words, banning foreign Muslims from entering this country is somehow "against everything America stands for". But revoking the civil rights of AMERICANS on some arbitrary list, with no evidence of wrong doing, no trial and no standard of justice, is just hunky dory.
Obama is the first US president that cares more about the sensibilities of foreigners than about the safety and civil rights of American citizens.
"Barack KNOWS that we have to change our history, he KNOWS we have to change our traditions..."
~ Michelle Obama
Obama does not believe in the foundational basis for America, so it comes as no surprise that he would not uphold or defend the Constitution.
There is a reason that no one has ever seen Obama take the oath of office publicly (other than the botched attempt at the first Inauguration, that required a "do-over), and why no one other than C.J. Roberts was the only one in the room who at the time said oath was supposedly taken. THIS is my tin foil conspiracy theory and I am sticking to it.
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