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Old 12-09-2015, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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Absolutely a Hitler could happen in the USA. As a non American I probably have quite different thoughts on this than most posters here. One just has to consider the reaction to the 9\11 attack to realize just how fragile "liberty and freedom" is in the USA. It's very obvious that the USA has entered a phase of great decline. This decline is right across the board, from social, economic, cultural and political aspects of the nation. The political system of the nation seems to have reached the point where it's near totally dysfunctional in many key areas which only leads to the acceleration of the decline. In many countries this could be remedied by "REFORM", but as we have seen for decades, reform is impossible in the USA. It's amazing to see the "left" blaming the "Right" and the "Right" blaming the "Left" how the people are deluded by this nonsense. Firstly, there is NO left in the USA, just differing shades of "right" from mild to extreme. The nation is most definitely lurching further rightwards by the day. There are just so many scenarios where democracy, liberty and freedom could come to a sudden stop never to return. A massive attack on the homeland would bring the republic to a crashing end. Seeing how the state deals with relative minor "in the scope of things" attacks I really don't think freedom would survive a competent enemy. There is also the steady and sure descent into a fascist "police state". The country is already WAY down that road. At present law enforcement is beginning to mirror the infamous "Gestapo" of the other and largest Right wing power the world has ever seen. Corporations have more power within the nation than all the people put together. So far, "Thank God" the military does not seemed to have joined this evil cabal of overbearing Political and corporate power. If and when they actively join the cabal, "It's over". Always, always always, as nations lurch away from democratic freedom towards fascism, the military is the key. It just blows my mind to hear American "Libertarians" claiming that the 2nd amendment will or can protect them from a government bend on tyranny. They would disarm you, kill you and eliminate you in very short order. I tell you, it's so serious and dire that my oldest son who is a medical specialist and quite the genius has already made plans to to move to Provence in the south of France when in his words, "those Yankees go completely nuts as the nation swirls downwards. They will eventually reach the breaking point. Being Americans , they will lash out rather than reform and Canada could be in for quite a lashing. We will be basking on the Riviera".

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Old 12-09-2015, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Originally Posted by lucknow View Post
Absolutely a Hitler could happen in the USA. As a non American I probably have quite different thoughts on this than most posters here. One just has to consider the reaction to the 9\11 attack to realize just how fragile "liberty and freedom" is in the USA. It's very obvious that the USA has entered a phase of great decline. This decline is right across the board, from social, economic, cultural and political aspects of the nation. The political system of the nation seems to have reached the point where it's near totally dysfunctional in many key areas which only leads to the acceleration of the decline. In many countries this could be remedied by "REFORM", but as we have seen for decades, reform is impossible in the USA. It's amazing to see the "left" blaming the "Right" and the "Right" blaming the "Left" how the people are deluded by this nonsense. Firstly, there is NO left in the USA, just differing shades of "right" from mild to extreme. The nation is most definitely lurching further rightwards by the day. There are just so many scenarios where democracy, liberty and freedom could come to a sudden stop never to return. A massive attack on the homeland would bring the republic to a crashing end. Seeing how the state deals with relative minor "in the scope of things" attacks I really don't think freedom would survive a competent enemy. There is also the steady and sure descent into a fascist "police state". The country is already WAY down that road. At present law enforcement is beginning to mirror the infamous "Gestapo" of the other and largest Right wing power the world has ever seen. Corporations have more power within the nation than all the people put together. So far, "Thank God" the military does not seemed to have joined this evil cabal of overbearing Political and corporate power. If and when they actively join the cabal, "It's over". Always, always always, as nations lurch away from democratic freedom towards fascism, the military is the key. It just blows my mind to hear American "Libertarians" claiming that the 2nd amendment will or can protect them from a government bend on tyranny. They would disarm you, kill you and eliminate you in very short order. I tell you, it's so serious and dire that my oldest son who is a medical specialist and quite the genius has already made plans to to move to Provence in the south of France when in his words, "those Yankees go completely nuts as the nation swirls downwards. They will eventually reach the breaking point. Being Americans , they will lash out rather than reform and Canada could be in for quite a lashing. We will be basking on the Riviera".
Are you serious?
 
Old 12-09-2015, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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The real question is how was it possible that five years prior to Hitler becoming German Chancellor the National Socialists were considered almost a joke, rejected by 97% of German voters?

A joke!

In the 1928 German Election the Nazi Party only achieved 2.6% of the national vote, this means that an amazing 97% of Germans clearly did not want Hitler to be their Chancellor. The Nazis were looked upon as a fringe party and were almost a joke – yet just five years later Hitler was Chancellor of Germany! How could this have happened?

Economics. As long as everything is good we have little to worry about but let it all crash, and crash badly, it could happen here.

The great depression made Hitler.

I believe there were social issues as well. Prior to 1930 Berlin, and especially Hamburg, were viewed by the rednecks outside major metropolitan areas as places of homosexuality and debauchery. The enlightened leftists loved to rub the rednecks noses in it thinking they had total control that nothing would ever change.
 
Old 12-09-2015, 09:22 AM
 
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Anyone who is comparing what Trump said to Hitler is an ass. Did the Jews go around and bomb and shoot up people and places over their religion? No they didn't, so the comparison is childish and massively uninformed.
 
Old 12-09-2015, 09:24 AM
 
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Originally Posted by lucknow View Post
Absolutely a Hitler could happen in the USA. As a non American I probably have quite different thoughts on this than most posters here. One just has to consider the reaction to the 9\11 attack to realize just how fragile "liberty and freedom" is in the USA. It's very obvious that the USA has entered a phase of great decline. This decline is right across the board, from social, economic, cultural and political aspects of the nation. The political system of the nation seems to have reached the point where it's near totally dysfunctional in many key areas which only leads to the acceleration of the decline. In many countries this could be remedied by "REFORM", but as we have seen for decades, reform is impossible in the USA. It's amazing to see the "left" blaming the "Right" and the "Right" blaming the "Left" how the people are deluded by this nonsense. Firstly, there is NO left in the USA, just differing shades of "right" from mild to extreme. The nation is most definitely lurching further rightwards by the day. There are just so many scenarios where democracy, liberty and freedom could come to a sudden stop never to return. A massive attack on the homeland would bring the republic to a crashing end. Seeing how the state deals with relative minor "in the scope of things" attacks I really don't think freedom would survive a competent enemy. There is also the steady and sure descent into a fascist "police state". The country is already WAY down that road. At present law enforcement is beginning to mirror the infamous "Gestapo" of the other and largest Right wing power the world has ever seen. Corporations have more power within the nation than all the people put together. So far, "Thank God" the military does not seemed to have joined this evil cabal of overbearing Political and corporate power. If and when they actively join the cabal, "It's over". Always, always always, as nations lurch away from democratic freedom towards fascism, the military is the key. It just blows my mind to hear American "Libertarians" claiming that the 2nd amendment will or can protect them from a government bend on tyranny. They would disarm you, kill you and eliminate you in very short order. I tell you, it's so serious and dire that my oldest son who is a medical specialist and quite the genius has already made plans to to move to Provence in the south of France when in his words, "those Yankees go completely nuts as the nation swirls downwards. They will eventually reach the breaking point. Being Americans , they will lash out rather than reform and Canada could be in for quite a lashing. We will be basking on the Riviera".
Your son is no genius that's for sure. He's a paranoid nut. Going to France? LMAO...Hope he stays safe..
 
Old 12-09-2015, 09:27 AM
 
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I find it remarkable that liberals won't call radical Islam for what it truly is, but are quick to call Trump the next Hitler....
 
Old 12-09-2015, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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Yes I'm very serious! Does it not give you pause to think that already, militarized law enforcement can and does kill innocent people on a regular basis and usually gets away scot free? You can be "disappeared" by one of the innumerable federal LEOs.
"Citizens United" guarantees near totally corrupt governance at all levels. The justice system is corrupt, broken and racist to the core. Your cities are falling apart to an extent and degree that is just mindblowing. The banks and corporate America is ruling the nation for their narrow interests which are usually contrary to the public interest. You know, the other day I was thinking, How would the USA of today react to the social unrest that was almost a daily aspect of American life during the Vietnam era. "Four dead in O H I O was a big deal then. Today I fear it would be 40,000 dead all over the place. Americans used to be brave people, now it seems to be a nation of scared, afraid and paranoid *******. One small attack, with a few dead paralyses the entire country. On the other hand tens of thousand of Americans killing each other does not seem important to anyone.
 
Old 12-09-2015, 09:28 AM
 
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Anyone who is comparing what Trump said to Hitler is an ass. Did the Jews go around and bomb and shoot up people and places over their religion? No they didn't, so the comparison is childish and massively uninformed.
Hitler was not just about the Jews and other minorities he sent to the camps. It is about his maniacal sense of power and ruthlessness. It is not about the Jews. They were just playthings in his hand. His aim was super control. In fact ISIS.
 
Old 12-09-2015, 09:30 AM
 
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Hitler was not just about the Jews and other minorities he sent to the camps. It is about his maniacal sense of power and ruthlessness. That is the comparison to the Jews. They were just playthings in his hand. His aim was super control. In fact ISIS.
Yeah and? Still doesn't compare to what Trump said. What Trump said is smart.
 
Old 12-09-2015, 09:30 AM
 
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I find it remarkable that liberals won't call radical Islam for what it truly is, but are quick to call Trump the next Hitler....
Ok. He is the next ISIS.
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