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I've pretty much ignored this thread until now so forgive me that in my boredom I interject myself into it at this late date because perhaps I am missing something...
The assignment sheet for the exercise clearly states that what they were copying was the Shahada, "the Islamic statement of faith, so to claim that the students "had no idea what it said" seems to be way off the mark.
Unless that was explained to them beforehand by the teacher then, no, most probably didn't know what that actually meant.
Remember this was in a geography class, not a world religion class so how deep into Islam did the teacher go ?
I've pretty much ignored this thread until now so forgive me that in my boredom I interject myself into it at this late date because perhaps I am missing something...
The assignment sheet for the exercise clearly states that what they were copying was the Shahada, "the Islamic statement of faith, so to claim that the students "had no idea what it said" seems to be way off the mark.
Not to go off topic......read post 309 with no disrespect to the poster it's very clear this is not a Biblical God. No, the students did not know what they were writing, it was revealed after the class.
No one can rightful say the writing had to do with a God covering Islam and Christianity......after reading what Islam believes versus Christianity.
Unless that was explained to them beforehand by the teacher then, no, most probably didn't know what that actually meant.
As I stated before, what is right there at the topic of the exercise.
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Remember this was in a geography class, not a world religion class so how deep into Islam did the teacher go ?
How deep does one have to go to explain "profession of faith?"
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Not to go off topic......read post 309 with no disrespect to the poster it's very clear this is not a Biblical God.
This is off topic but a topic that puzzles me as one who doesn't have a dog in this fight. All three, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam trace their origins to Abraham. Whether you like your younger cousin in God or not, Islam traces its roots to the prophet Abraham and through all of the Biblical prophets up to and including Jesus. To argue that the god of Muslims is not the god of Christians and Jews is nothing more than on family member disowning another. If you are going to do that you need to sit in shiva.
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No, the students did not know what they were writing, it was revealed after the class.
Its right there on the assignment! "Here is the shahada, the Islamic statement of faith, written in Arabic. In the space below, try copying it by hand. This should give you an idea of the artistic complexity of calligraphy."
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No one can rightful say the writing had to do with a God covering Islam and Christianity......after reading what Islam believes versus Christianity.
Oh for goodness sake is that what this is all about, arguing over who owns god? Nothing personal but you people of Abraham have been fighting over the ownership of god for far too long.
Oh for goodness sake is that what this is all about, arguing over who owns god? Nothing personal but you people of Abraham have been fighting over the ownership of god for far too long.
Hence the problem with organized religion they all feel the need to be THE one. Sadly they won't stop it's a on going war. You would think at some point they would be happy with whatever version they choose to believe. Guess not.
I actually never claimed this, I do have my reservations and questions......but many of us also don't believe God is Allah. This is what the writing was claiming.
Schools really have no right to claim who God is. Talking about religion is one thing, claiming who God IS, is another. Having a writing lesson without mentioning who God IS, is really not that hard.
Okay. I was basing that on your statement: "God is very clear in the Bible about who He IS to be called".
Just to put one thing in perspective here -- and this is not in response to the overall thread in all its many aspects -- if you are one who thinks the school is trying to convert kids to Islam, just consider the following:
This thread has been going on so long now that I have forgotten whether this is a middle or high school, but I'm assuming they have a teaching staff of 60-100. It's unlikely there's a single Muslim on the teaching staff. A slight possibility there are 1 or 2...maybe. So thinking that an overwhelmingly Christian/agnostic/atheist/Jewish teaching staff is going to try to convert kids to become Muslim is just a bit ludicrous.
You're describing the mother who kvetched about a Kindergarten class going to see Santa. But of course, she's not a Christian, so all is fine with her and her little snowflake.
Yeah that mother was ridiculous too. But most of these stories seem to be Christian parents complaining about something else. Sorry for generalizing but Christians are the most prominent religious group in the US, especially in smaller town areas and outside of cities, so it's likely that if a parent will be complaining about something like this, he or she will be a Christian. That's not to say that anyone else cannot also go cry about ridiculous things to the media.
Plot twist: I am a Roman Catholic. I am also a rather conservative (on some issues) Republican. So I'm not trying to be rude or controversial or political I'm just telling it like I personally see it.
"I can say with a fair amount of certainty that all popes that have ever pontificated are in hell now.
I do not say this with any sense of glee or happiness. The real fact of hell and people there who had the chance to accept Jesus, but didn’t, and are now in eternal torment, saddens me to the point of tears.
But I said what I said bluntly because I want to cut through the “political correctness” to penetrate the mind of those who give sway to any kind of notion that Catholicism is a true faith. It is not."
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Guess not.
