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Old 01-02-2016, 04:37 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I was in 'Nam in '65-66 as a Riverine forces in the Mekong Delta Area. I did not care if the guy next to me was black, white, straight, gay or anything else. I only cared about his ability to fight effectively. Hell, we could have used an squad or two of Orcs. The natives were very very good at shooting us.


IMHO our Armed forces should reflect our society and not be a band of White Kristian Soldiers like our Air Force officers have become.
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Old 01-02-2016, 06:00 AM
 
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One of my crazy friends told me months ago that integration in the U.S. military was one of the worst things to happen to the U.S. LOL. Do you agree or disagree?
Absolutely not. Inclusion always beats Exclusion. We are a much richer country because of Inclusion in every Institution that make our country great. Diversity is our greatest strength.
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Old 01-02-2016, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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One of my crazy friends told me months ago that integration in the U.S. military was one of the worst things to happen to the U.S. LOL. Do you agree or disagree?
You mean racial integration? Seriously? Does your "crazy friend" have a collection of white sheets as apparel and a shrine to Adolf Hitler in his living room?
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Old 01-02-2016, 08:33 AM
 
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I was assigned to the Marines during Vietnam. We didn't have Black Marines or White Marines. We didn't have Hispanic Marines or Asian Marines. We had Marines. I am and will always be proud to have served with each and every one of them. I have never witnessed such bravery and such brotherhood as I did during that time. Semper Fi
Agreed. IMHO Marines are only 1 color: "green".
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Old 01-02-2016, 08:35 AM
 
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Exactly. No one. Over 30% of my husband's unit didn't come back from Afghanistan on his first deployment. Who the !!!! is thinking about integration issues?

Wow.
My God. RIP to your husband's brothers and sisters.
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Old 01-02-2016, 09:09 AM
 
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best thing that ever happen, if the public had the same ideas that the military have, it be a better place
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Old 01-02-2016, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Did your friend serve? Did they say WHY it was a horrible idea? From my personal point of view I think integration that is forced is ALWAYS wrong. My father who DID SERVE in the late 70's early 80's said he refused to reenlist because he was the wrong race for the Army. Said white's were held to higher standard and blacks were never punished....he blatantly told this to his Sgt when he was asked if he wanted to reenlist. I now have 2 cousins in the Air Force and they seem to like it course they are in jobs that require HIGH IQ so maybe its not as bad...not sure.
Our country does not stand for segregation. And if the military still did, then it wouldn't be worth of our respect. Segregation is the antithesis of what this country is about.
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Old 01-02-2016, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I was assigned to the Marines during Vietnam. We didn't have Black Marines or White Marines. We didn't have Hispanic Marines or Asian Marines. We had Marines. I am and will always be proud to have served with each and every one of them. I have never witnessed such bravery and such brotherhood as I did during that time. Semper Fi
Bravo!!!
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Old 01-02-2016, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Our country does not stand for segregation. And if the military still did, then it wouldn't be worth of our respect. Segregation is the antithesis of what this country is about.

America remains largely segregated and that isn't likely to change any time soon. The military has been able to integrate because it is an artificial, controled environment.
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Old 01-02-2016, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Did your friend serve? Did they say WHY it was a horrible idea? From my personal point of view I think integration that is forced is ALWAYS wrong. My father who DID SERVE in the late 70's early 80's said he refused to reenlist because he was the wrong race for the Army. Said white's were held to higher standard and blacks were never punished....he blatantly told this to his Sgt when he was asked if he wanted to reenlist. I now have 2 cousins in the Air Force and they seem to like it course they are in jobs that require HIGH IQ so maybe its not as bad...not sure.
My father served in Korea, my uncle in Vietnam, me in Gulf War I and my son in Iraq. Your father was childish and racist. The best thing he did was decline re-enlistment. You're implying there aren't that many blacks with a "high IQ". That's an ignorant thing to say.

I was in the USAF and AFSC's (jobs) are assigned according to ASVAB scores not IQ. After almost 30 years, I still stay in touch with the people in my unit: southern whites, northern whites, blacks, Hawaians, and Hispanics.

We had a racist in the unit. Hailed from Columbus, Georgia. The guy sulked and walked around with a chip on his shoulder and a burr up his butt. Had a plantation mind. Nobody liked him and he had no friends. He declined re-enlistment too. Imagine that.
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