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Yep, we have been there for well over two hundred years now.
It was worse when women didn't work. The "unemployment" was well over 60%.
Its Obama's fault.
Impeach now!
Obama should be out on spying on both Congress and the Press. Beyond Nixon just there, right?
It is best if you try and quote history that you do so in context.
Correct, only some women used to be in the workforce. Used to be one parent working was enough to feed a family and buy things.
The lesson you could learn from women going into the workforce would be the extra workers made the cost of everything go up so now it requires twice as much from people (a married team) to pay for a family in life whereas before we threw women into the workforce it took one.
At this point you could get into whether that was good or bad for women, but for the family it made families require twice as much as it used to economically to survive. We also lost the ability in most cases to allow mothers to stay home as dad alone worked. Not the best in those cases, but people wanted to be in the workforce and of course they have the right to do so.
Anyway, a third of Americans are not in the work force, 90% of this country doesn't have $1000 to their name in a bank account anymore either. Trouble? Do we continue not being fiscally conservative with balanced budgets and SOME social programs or do we collapse it all and do nothing for others?
You explained it using no credible sources whatsoever.
Troll attempt: 4/10, try harder next time.
You embarrass yourself here. The number of people of employment age not in the workforce is well known, it is not like we are trying to figure out how many hairs you have exactly on your back side.
Take the population minus the people not in the workforce of age and you get the people not working which is the real unemployment rate. Third grade stuff at most and none of this information is hidden.
You just want to take the conversation away from the failure going on here and the fact we need fiscal discipline to bring it back alone with less theft of other people's money.
The more applicable figure is the Tipping Point of 50% of the population that does not pay any Federal Income Tax (which funds our Government). We are at 47% now (latest figures about 2012). This 47% actually gets a Government check at Tax Time and many of them collect welfare of one type or another the rest of the year.
They will always vote for the Money Machine (Leftists Clinton or Sanders) that continue to fund them. Those Litmus Test voters that don't have the PERFECT candidate will enable the Leftists when they vote 3rd party or Boycott the Election. That's how we got Obama.
The more applicable figure is the Tipping Point of 50% of the population that does not pay any Federal Income Tax (which funds our Government). We are at 47% now (latest figures about 2012). This 47% actually gets a Government check at Tax Time and many of them collect welfare of one type or another the rest of the year.
They will always vote for the Money Machine (Leftists Clinton or Sanders) that continue to fund them. Those Litmus Test voters that don't have the PERFECT candidate will enable the Leftists when they vote 3rd party or Boycott the Election. That's how we got Obama.
Kibby, notice we are going to add an additional 10 trillion to the national debt or more under Obama. How is that possible?
Because far less than 50% pay taxes at all beyond life stuff like sales tax, tax on gas.
90% of Americans were just reported to not even have $1000 in the bank.
Most people with the exception of SS payments, Medicare payments through work give zero to the Feds after they file their tax return.
It is so bad with the individual child credit in the past that there were folks not working that still were claiming a $20,000 tax return and got paid. Look this up in Santa Ana California. No income, here's a $20,000 gift from the Feds.
I think the top 15% or so are paying it all. I don't have statistics and articles by my side but when people ask for help with taxes and they make under 50k, few pay Federal taxes and get their money back. I am sure that is nation wide.
We have been living the Great Depression with social programs for years doubling our national debt under just Obama.
Growth near nothing.
Job growth for our needs near nothing.
Almost 100 million able bodied employable people not participating in the workforce out of a country of 330 million.
No games about false unemployment numbers. We've been at near 30% unemployment for years now.
Zero interest rates have savaged the retirements of people who saved. Yet because we have 19 trillion in debt unless the government screws savers and retirees they/we would be having to pay more interest on the debt.
Here is where the lesson of how bad big government is. Whose benefit does all this work for, the private sector where people take taxes or for government world where they take all the stuff from you they can.
IMO you can't be a progressive/socialist/communist and make America thrive. Nothing about taking from others and giving it to your special friends and special interests for your party makes a country go.
IMO there is no way in the future we can be anything but fiscal conservatives with our money. As a conservative myself of course I believe in helping people. I can see lots of help for the real massively disabled and for the elderly. I can see temporary safety nets in society for anything else.
My reasoning for not believing we can do everything for everybody is the broke factor. Once the funds dry up SS will start when you are older still, maybe 73 with less pay out. People who need their cancer treatment in Medicaid may not have the funds there to do it.
By trying to do everything for everyone we are in fact being cruel down the line to everyone as we incapacitate ourselves to serve our fellow man.
Why not get a balanced budget, grow the economy to support more and quit obsessing about our neighbor's goods versus what we ourselves should just go out and work for?
Maybe it is time we act like adults and grow up fiscally?
Golly gee!
Gosh sakes alive!
Right wingers fervently hoping for another economic disaster like their last prez brought us?
No, I think we have been living in one Old G.
We can do better. We can't call a success 7 years and 10 trillion of new debt.
My major point in all this was that as a conservative even I want to see some help for people on some reasonable level. I always wanted help for the massively disabled or the elderly. I also don't mind some temporary safety nets.
The problem with our future here is all ability to help others will be gone.
If you give so much away to buy votes and power and things are 19 trillion in debt, then you are leading yourself toward a fiscal diet that would exclude many social programs.
Better we stop the overdrive on the social side, get our house in fiscal order and kind of start at this again with balanced budgets.
Source your wild claims before parading them around as fact
If you add 15 to 17 yr olds in school and the retired you can get a lot closer to that number Faux Snooze has pulled this crap before adding these 2 groups really does not cound
No, I think we have been living in one Old G.
We can do better. We can't call a success 7 years and 10 trillion of new debt.
All brought on by the titanic failure of "tax cuts & trickle-down."
It's proved itself to be a tough one to rebound from.
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My major point in all this was that as a conservative even I want to see some help for people on some reasonable level. I always wanted help for the massively disabled or the elderly. I also don't mind some temporary safety nets.
The problem with our future here is all ability to help others will be gone.
If you give so much away to buy votes and power and things are 19 trillion in debt, then you are leading yourself toward a fiscal diet that would exclude many social programs.
Better we stop the overdrive on the social side, get our house in fiscal order and kind of start at this again with balanced budgets.
Our economy didn't collapse as a result of over-regulation or lack of corporate privilege. It went into the dumpster by allowing the "financial establishment" to write its own rules.
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