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Here is what the top caste in this country has accomplished. They have given corporations personhood. Corporations now have almost limitless abilities to influence government policy while they systematically deprive the unions of a voice and their existence. This Supreme Court decision if it comes to pass is ultimately an attack on the ability of people to have a reasonable work life balance. Corporations are more dangerous than ever. If you are open minded, take a look at the Work and employment threads to see what is going on in the nonunionized private sector.
It has become obvious to me that some of the people that post here are paid to do so. Don't listen to the 100 year old arguments about Socialism and other such nonsense. Unions protect people from bullies. Back in the eighteen hundreds organized labor succeeded in bringing the workday down to eight hours. There are modern instances where unions could protect American jobs but don't because the union has been eliminated. Corporations all over America are firing their Americans and forcing them to train their foreign replacements. Do you think that this would happen so fast if they were organized?
Don't listen to the paid corporate shills. They want the idea of a union to become a thing of the past. If you are American and not represented or organized there are a dozen corporate think tanks planning to take the food out of your mouth.
Yup, I'm looking forward to this too. Don't believe all the left wing propaganda about unions. Unions had their time and place about 100 years ago. BTW, this will stop forcing people to pay union dues that are used to for political endorsements and contributions that people do not agree with. Sounds quite logical to me. No wonder union leadership hates this. They'll no longer be able to suck out money of working people who don't agree with them to bribe politicians. It's about time and long overdue. I hardly would call that the death of our country.
In fact it reduces their voice while the corporations have person hood. I will believe that when there is a corporation sitting next to me in the jury box.
Good luck getting anyone with any intelligence to work for the government. the pay is so much lower than what you get in the private sector. The job security, great benefits, and public employee unions are what sweeten the deal. I was once public sector, am now private sector, and will never go back to public sector if/when scotus does this. You'd have to be desperate to take a public sector job.
So the worst of the worst will be working for the government. Peachy.
Here is the way that it really works. Corporations lay off an equal number from each age group. Corporations rehire those in their twenties and thirties. The middle aged compete for the only places that will employ them. Forty five doesn't mean seventy. There's plenty of juice left in these people and twenty years of experience to boot. Government may not get the workaholics, but government gets a wealth of experience.
really? I work in Corporate. How does a union job and their negotiating rights in any way benefit me?
and please spare me citing ancient union speak "if it weren't for unions.... etc" - we already covered that... they're just thugs now, like the mafia. Original unions that invented the concept ceased to exist.
They don't because as an unrepresented worker you are on your own.
Everyone thinks that computer programmers make a hundred thousand a year. In fact we are being replaced by foreign labor in large numbers. In some instances these foreigners are not required to contribute to Social Security or pay taxes. If the Americans were represented by a union this wouldn't be a great problem.
Even if you are not in IT, flip through a book named "Sold Out" by John Miano next time you are in Barnes and Nobles.
Jumping for joy because workers are fixing to be dealt a death blow to fight for better wages,healthcare,safety etc....wow...one sick being. Unions collapse it will be the death of this country. I shudder to think about what happens with us being able to unionize and fight back against huge conglomerates.
Federal regs have replaced the unions so no worry.
No longer will people have to pay to work in a scheme that makes life wonderful for union leaders and not so much for members.
You are so wrong. They represent firefighters, teachers, police among others. My bil was a firefighter. Before a union he worked enormous hours with little pay and benefits. Who was he to complain to. No one because they didn't care.
So, government was not a good employer.
I'm sure their is an employment contract, when you work for government.
Read employment contracts, before you sign your life away to government, because there is no competition.
I'm sure their is an employment contract, when you work for government.
Read employment contracts, before you sign your life away to government, because there is no competition.
No, there isn't. It is quite the opposite. You sign nothing and your employment is controlled by ordinances and regulations that replace contracts. Those ordinances can be changed at will and unilaterally by elected officials, changing the terms of your employment without your consent or even prior notice. (Ordinances governing terms of public employment are not subject to Article 1 Section 9 limitations, so they can be applied retroactively back before the ordinance was even proposed.)
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