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Old 02-01-2016, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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And now, Cliven Bundy has sent a letter to Sheriff Ward informing him that:



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Unreal. Cliven Bundy is making demands. And what the hell is this "we the people" crap? He doesn't speak for me.

If they intend on holding the refuge they better get the final four some reinforcements. They've got to be getting ready to pack it in by now. The temperatures have been in the teens and they're going to get snowed on in a few days.
When did Cliven move to Burns? I thought he was in NV.

And how is the sheriff supposed to oust the nasty feds when the militia is calling for him to resign?

 
Old 02-01-2016, 10:02 PM
 
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Thanks you just proved you don't know squat! Why are those Native American artifacts hidden...
Which has what to do with "URANIUM & MAGNESIUM becoming the big BUZZ word" and the even weirder "Have you looked up how many monuments are being given away for our debt" ?

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By the way may people are stating LaVoy had no weapons on him
Doesn't matter. He went out of his way to cultivate an image of himself as a firearm-toting rebel. The FBI is not obliged to take a round to make sure.
 
Old 02-01-2016, 11:03 PM
 
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He went out of his way to cultivate an image of himself as a firearm-toting rebel. The FBI is not obliged to take a round to make sure.
Perfect epitaph. Change the "is not obligated" to "was not obligated" and they should carve that on his tombstone.
 
Old 02-02-2016, 12:14 PM
 
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Bundy's request for a new hearing regarding bail is called off. Bundy will be staying in jail.

Judge calls off hearing for standoff leader; Bundy stays in jail | News, Weather, Sports, Breaking News | KATU
 
Old 02-02-2016, 12:33 PM
 
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Bundy's request for a new hearing regarding bail is called off. Bundy will be staying in jail.

Judge calls off hearing for standoff leader; Bundy stays in jail | News, Weather, Sports, Breaking News | KATU
I'm sure his dads letter to the sheriff isn't helping him.
 
Old 02-02-2016, 12:49 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Burn an acre of federal land to stop a wild fire & save your home = arson under special terrorism statute? Do you believe the terrorism law was intended to get people like this? Really? Could it be you just want to celebrate this because of their skin color and political lean? If you support the government using terrorism statutes against these guys, don't come here crying when they start charging environmentalists, anti-corporate protesters, anti-war and social activists with it in the future. I was against this domestic terrorism crap when it was being cooked up on this very basis. It's the ultimate slipper slope.
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Hammond Witness Describes Setting Fire In 2001 . News | OPB


Oregon ranchers' fight with feds sparks militias' interest | OregonLive.com


They weren't charged as terrorists. It just so happens the applicable law has that title. The fire they set was downhill from a camp of firefighters. The arson put their lives in extreme danger. You don't set a fire downhill from a group of firefighters who are also facing a fire in the other direction. You also don't set a back burn without following the legal channels. You communicate what is happening so people don't get trapped by fire and burned to death.
 
Old 02-02-2016, 02:52 PM
 
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They weren't charged as terrorists. It just so happens the applicable law has that title.
NO! A thousand times no!

The Hammonds were not convicted of violating the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996. The Act was an omnibus that amended multiple sections of U.S. Code not all of which involved terrorism. They were convicted for violating U.S. Code Title 18 Part I Chapter 40 § 844 which specifies penalties for violating 18 U.S. Code § 842 - Unlawful acts!
 
Old 02-02-2016, 04:43 PM
 
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NO! A thousand times no!

The Hammonds were not convicted of violating the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996. The Act was an omnibus that amended multiple sections of U.S. Code not all of which involved terrorism. They were convicted for violating U.S. Code Title 18 Part I Chapter 40 § 844 which specifies penalties for violating 18 U.S. Code § 842 - Unlawful acts!

Exactly my point. The big bill Congress passed had that title but it doesn't mean everything covered under it is considered terrorism.
 
Old 02-02-2016, 04:56 PM
 
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Exactly my point. The big bill Congress passed had that title but it doesn't mean everything covered under it is considered terrorism.
I know it was but we've been on this merry go round so many times I wanted the citation to be exactly correct.
 
Old 02-02-2016, 09:00 PM
 
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The sheriff has issued a response to the PPN and Cliven Bundy.

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