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Old 02-10-2016, 06:47 AM
 
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This is true. I want to add something else. There has been a history of banning Black men from having any kind of weapon. The idea was to emasculate Black men. If you can defend yourself, you can't easily be enslaved. Consider the Greenwood riot in Tulsa. The idea was to tear down a Black neighborhood. One man had a gun to defend himself. He was ordered by another man to give up his gun. Think about why he, as a Black man, would be ordered to give up his gun.
Great post.

Sad reality is that the political party affiliation protects Bloomberg from any real backlash.

Heck, if he'd said something even more offensive then he'd just have to roll out some black supporters and democratic allies to absolve him as a "good guy" that "supports blacks".

This is also the guy that runs the NYPD.

Kinda points out how getting political change on things like minority policing and other initiatives is such a tough sell when so many have it good and don't want to rock the boat.

I just look at city after city and the typical black resident doesn't seem to have an effective voice in politics.

Just look at Baltimore's current mayor.
Well mumsy was a doctor and my father was a politician, I grew up in the upscale Ashburton neighborhood. She's got hers with prominent democratic connections, board seats, DNC secretary.....is she going to "rock the boat"? Not on your life.

P.S. "Well it's not like I'd vote republican" is a valid response...can't blame you there....but it doesn't change the point.
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Old 02-10-2016, 08:48 AM
 
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Need to be 21 for a FOID or parental permission if younger, in Illinois.

Most murders in Chicago are gang related in neighborhoods controlled by gangs. Gangs don't care about laws.
Exactly. Its not like gangbangers are buying their guns from Sports Authority or Walmart.
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Old 02-10-2016, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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So you suppose he is thinking a voluntary turn in would work?
No just making a statement that the demographic indicated accounts for a rather large part of the crime, how they address that is problematic but no question they account for a large majority of crime.
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Old 02-10-2016, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Great post.

Sad reality is that the political party affiliation protects Bloomberg from any real backlash.

Heck, if he'd said something even more offensive then he'd just have to roll out some black supporters and democratic allies to absolve him as a "good guy" that "supports blacks".

This is also the guy that runs the NYPD.

Kinda points out how getting political change on things like minority policing and other initiatives is such a tough sell when so many have it good and don't want to rock the boat.

I just look at city after city and the typical black resident doesn't seem to have an effective voice in politics.

Just look at Baltimore's current mayor.
Well mumsy was a doctor and my father was a politician, I grew up in the upscale Ashburton neighborhood. She's got hers with prominent democratic connections, board seats, DNC secretary.....is she going to "rock the boat"? Not on your life.

P.S. "Well it's not like I'd vote republican" is a valid response...can't blame you there....but it doesn't change the point.
Whether you agree with it or not stop & frisk implemented by Bloomberg did remove guns from that group.
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Old 02-10-2016, 09:11 AM
 
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The joke's on Bloomberg, since most of those guns are illegally acquired to begin with. In addition to most of the gun carriers being underage. Let's make more ineffective gun laws to combat people who don't follow the laws in the first place.
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Old 02-10-2016, 09:22 AM
 
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Whether you agree with it or not stop & frisk implemented by Bloomberg did remove guns from that group.
Nice of you to defend the trampling on the Constitutional rights of minorities. And yes, you are defending it.
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Old 02-10-2016, 09:31 AM
 
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Americas own version of King George. Maybe he can dress the troops in red and station a soldier in every home.
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Old 02-10-2016, 09:37 AM
 
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can't we just pass a law that prohibits criminals from having a gun?
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Old 02-10-2016, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Show us the 'hole'.
(Oh and I am going to address one of those so called 'holes' in my next post!)
you seriously dont understand that you can support gun control and not want to ban all minority young men from owning guns ?
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Old 02-10-2016, 09:40 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Now this is a tough one for anti-gun nuts. If they support this then they are discriminating against "minorities", but if they don't then they are acknowledging that the 2nd Amendment protects the right to keep and bear arms. What is a liberal anti-gun nut to do?
funny that they 'disappeared' the original version of this post (but missed some responses). it was a good one
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