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Planned Parenthood does a lot of good for this society. It should be government funded.
If they weren't performing abortions at federally funded clinics then there would be no issue. Any PP clinic should have the option to cease and desist performing abortions -- and then I'm absolutely fine with them being federally funded.
If they want to perform abortions at X certain clinic, then that clinic should not receive any federal funding. This preserves their right to perform abortions and also preserves the much-touted right of the American people to not have to pay for abortions.
Actually, that's impossible. How do you separate federal dollars spent supporting a clinic from the abortion? Federal dollars keep the lights on and the rest of the utilities. Federal dollars pay things like property taxes and the rent/mortgage. Federal dollars pays for medical supplies. If federal money is paying for all those things for a clinic that performs abortions, then federal money is helping to pay for abortions.
If PP wants to continue to receive federal funding they can stop performing abortions and they can create separate clinics that do abortions. Only the abortion variety of PP clinic will receive no federal funding.
Anything less means that taxpayers actually are paying for abortions.
I've got no problem with PP doing everything else that they do. They're legally within their rights to run abortion clinics too. But we were told in no uncertain terms that taxpayer dollars are not paying for abortions in any way whatsoever. At present that simply isn't true.
Have you ever done any bookkeeping for a not-for-profit organization? I have.
There are accounting standards for allocating overhead costs among funding sources.
Of course shady bookkeeping and accounting can occur in *any* organization. That's why there is a whole profession dedicated to auditing.
Please cite an actual instance of PP violating those standards.
If they weren't performing abortions at federally funded clinics then there would be no issue. Any PP clinic should have the option to cease and desist performing abortions -- and then I'm absolutely fine with them being federally funded.
If they want to perform abortions at X certain clinic, then that clinic should not receive any federal funding. This preserves their right to perform abortions and also preserves the much-touted right of the American people to not have to pay for abortions.
Pretty simple, don't you think?
And it is simple. They could easily separate their abortion clinics and abortion services into a subsidiary that gets $0 federal money.
And then life would go on with them continuing to get hundreds of millions of tax dollars.
But they won't do it and are fighting the mere thought of it saying "trust us" instead.
Republicans have used planned parenthood organization as the boogeyman for a long time. They don't want truth they want spin. That's what republicans are giving. Look how eager Carlie Fiorina was in sharing the lies about Planned Parenthood. They have to be outraged about something and planned parenthood is a good target....
Republicans have used planned parenthood organization as the boogeyman for a long time. They don't want truth they want spin. That's what republicans are giving. Look how eager Carlie Fiorina was in sharing the lies about Planned Parenthood. They have to be outraged about something and planned parenthood is a good target....
If they weren't performing abortions at federally funded clinics then there would be no issue. Any PP clinic should have the option to cease and desist performing abortions -- and then I'm absolutely fine with them being federally funded.
If they want to perform abortions at X certain clinic, then that clinic should not receive any federal funding. This preserves their right to perform abortions and also preserves the much-touted right of the American people to not have to pay for abortions.
Pretty simple, don't you think?
True, this is something that Congress might be able to do. The problem is that just about all doctor's offices and hospitals receive federal funds. They'd have to make the same choice.
And if most or all chose to stop performing abortions, then we'd have a Constitutional problem, because SCOTUS has already ruled that while Congress and states may regulate abortion, they may not regulate it out of existence.
True, this is something that Congress might be able to do. The problem is that just about all doctor's offices and hospitals receive federal funds. They'd have to make the same choice.
And if most or all chose to stop performing abortions, then we'd have a Constitutional problem, because SCOTUS has already ruled that while Congress and states may regulate abortion, they may not regulate it out of existence.
It's not Congress that has to do anything here.
It's PP that has to do it and they have refused and fought it even at Congressional hearings.
Those doctors and hospitals that receive Fed funding do not perform abortions because the of Hyde Amendment. They WILL lose their funding.
Now why PP gets a pass is beyond me.
It's PP that has to do it and they have refused and fought it even at Congressional hearings.
????? I can think of no particular reason why PP should emulate Catholic health care providers and choose to stop providing abortions.
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan
Those doctors and hospitals that receive Fed funding do not perform abortions because the of Hyde Amendment. They WILL lose their funding.
Now why PP gets a pass is beyond me.
PP doesn't get a pass. They employ the same kind of professional accounting practices that all medical facilities use. Do you *really* think that only PP provides abortions in this country?
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