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Old 03-16-2016, 07:13 AM
 
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Why do some Americans still believe that the United States is the world's most "free" nation?

Its rankings on indexes conducted by various institutions are nothing to brag about. The overemphasis on "freedom" in America seems disingenuous to me. The U.S. is not that exceptional.

Wouldn't it be better for everyone to be honest so that performance can improve? Assuming that America is unquestionably the best at everything empowers the status quo. It gives them an excuse to not accommodate for progress.

Why do some Americans continue to look down on other nationalities, as though their cultures and governments are incapable of providing them with an equal or better level of freedom?


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Human Freedom Index (Cato Institute 2012; 2015, pp. 14-15)
1. Hong Kong
2. Switzerland
3. Finland
4. Denmark
5. New Zealand
6. Canada
7. Australia
8. Ireland
9. United Kingdom
10. Sweden
  • 20. United States



2016 Index of Economic Freedom (The Heritage Foundation 2016)
1. Hong Kong
2. Singapore
3. New Zealand
4. Switzerland
5. Australia
6. Canada
7. Chile
8. Ireland
9. Estonia
10. United Kingdom
  • 11. United States


World Press Freedom Index (Reporters Without Borders 2015)
1. Finland
2. Norway
3. Denmark
4. Netherlands
5. Sweden
6. New Zealand
7. Austria
8. Canada
9. Jamaica
10. Estonia
  • 49. United States


Democracy Index (The Economist Intelligence Unit 2015, p. 4)
1. Norway
2. Iceland
3. Sweden
4. New Zealand
5. Denmark
6. Switzerland
7. Canada
8. Finland
9. Australia
10. Netherlands
  • 20. United States
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Old 03-16-2016, 07:18 AM
 
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The frogs in the pot of quickly warming water will not want to believe this. State backed propganda is tough to beat.
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Old 03-16-2016, 07:52 AM
 
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Why do some Americans still believe that the United States is the world's most "free" nation?

Its rankings on indexes conducted by various institutions are nothing to brag about. The overemphasis on "freedom" in America seems disingenuous to me. The U.S. is not that exceptional.

Wouldn't it be better for everyone to be honest so that performance can improve? Assuming that America is unquestionably the best at everything empowers the status quo. It gives them an excuse to not accommodate for progress.

Why do some Americans continue to look down on other nationalities, as though their cultures and governments are incapable of providing them with an equal or better level of freedom?
LOL.

You guys need to get out of this country more often!

I happened to have lived in some of those countries. They aren't as free as USA. They are socialist countries though.

I take one example. Firearm ownership, a huge indicator for individual or human freedom. None of the top 10 guarantees firearm ownership like we do.

A truly free country would be a libertarian country where individual freedom and responsibility are truly valued. A country with the freedom to own everything, pay no property or personal taxes, marry whom you want and with legal gambling, prostitution and drugs etc. and without political correctness.

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Old 03-16-2016, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Paradise
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The coolest thing? Any "American" is FREE to leave whenever they want and take up residence in one of those "free-er" places.
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Old 03-16-2016, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb Reality check: America is not the most "free" nation

Yeah, well...

Regardless, I thank my lucky stars that by mere accident of birth that I'm an American.

Life in so much of the rest of the world is pretty miserable in comparison.

Latin America?

Africa?

Middle East?

Asia?

No thanks.
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Old 03-16-2016, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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I have been to some of those and certainly we are freerer here in more respects than those on the list. Instead of reading what someone else did perhaps you might try to get out and experience the world and make your own judgements.
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Old 03-16-2016, 08:25 AM
 
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The coolest thing? Any "American" is FREE to leave whenever they want and take up residence in one of those "free-er" places.
That is true. Virtually all the top 10 countries except for Canada do not have free exit. Everybody must go through exit control before being allowed to leave the country.
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Old 03-16-2016, 08:43 AM
 
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I would think prioritizing freedoms in any kind of valued list would have you crowing less over your right to carry pistols (regressive) and crying more over your 49th position as regards your press freedoms.

A free press is the virtual embodiment of "freedom of speech".
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Old 03-16-2016, 08:44 AM
 
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How do you define "Freedom"... and if you can't define because its based on cultural perception, why do we have meaningless stupid statistics? Its like ranking "Happiness" or "Best Weather" or "Favorite Food"...
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Old 03-16-2016, 08:50 AM
 
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LOL.

You guys need to get out of this country more often!

I happened to have lived in some of those countries. They aren't as free as USA. They are socialist countries though.

I take one example. Firearm ownership, a huge indicator for individual or human freedom. None of the top 10 guarantees firearm ownership like we do.

A truly free country would be a libertarian country where individual freedom and responsibility are truly valued. A country with the freedom to own everything, pay no property or personal taxes, marry whom you want and with legal gambling, prostitution and drugs etc. and without political correctness.
Galt's Gulch isn't a real place.
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