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Old 05-10-2016, 08:19 PM
 
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Wh... is this a joke? Why WOULDN'T you date a feminist?
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Old 05-10-2016, 09:04 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Wh... is this a joke? Why WOULDN'T you date a feminist?
It's pretty hard not to, unless you avoid dating altogether.
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Old 05-11-2016, 03:51 AM
 
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My bad; it was the House Armed Services Committee that approved extending Selective Service registration requirements to women--the first hurdle to amending the Selective Svce law. Women haven't been subject to the draft because the Pentagon wouldn't allow women in combat positions until the end of last year. So Congress has to vote to amend the law, now that women military personnel are allowed in direct combat posts. Legislation was introduced earlier this year to do that, and it's making its way through the process.


The military commentators don't sound too thrilled at the prospect. House panel votes to make women register for the draft


As if our military doesn’t have enough problems, on April 27 the House Armed Services Committee narrowly approved legislation to “Draft America’s Daughters.” If the misguided measure makes it into law, Military Selective Service Act (MSSA) obligations would be imposed on young women between the ages of 18-26, on the same basis as men.

That's due to the men's rights group that sued to the government to require women to register for selective service. My concern are women be able to pass the physical tests.


To be clear I'm not an MRA, MGTOW, or whatever. This doesn't mean anything to me since I"m against war.
National Coalition for Men suing to require women to register for the draft | AL.com


In a first, 3 women pass Marines Combat Endurance Test, toting 80-lb. packs - CSMonitor.com
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Old 05-11-2016, 03:53 AM
 
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You only addressed one of my points. However, the video's claims don't hold true. I'm talking about real women out in the work force working in offices alongside their peers, and finding out after they quit that they were being paid less than a newer hire in their department, or missing out on a promotion to a more recent, less experienced hire. (There have been a couple of those posting here, in the past.) Not talking about whether job A in X field is "comparable" to job B in X field. The "comparability" disclaimer is a smokescreen the bro-sphere loves to hide behind.

The amount of difference people get paid can't be boiled down to a single statistic. Millennial-generation women have a smaller pay gap than women in older generations, but there's still a gap.

Obama was brilliant when he recently called for all compensation to be completely transparent, so that everyone in the workplace would know what everyone else is making. If implemented across all industries, there would be no place for employers to hide, when they pay employees differentially based on gender, to say nothing of race.

Men who ask for raise more likely to get a raise resulting in a larger wage. Women are less likely to ask for raises.

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In the face of a persistent gender pay gap, researchers and women's advocates are focusing on one little-discussed part of the problem: Women simply don't ask for more money.

Ask For A Raise? Most Women Hesitate : NPR
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Old 05-11-2016, 03:55 AM
 
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Yet you are complaining that women aren't required to fight or be drafted. Why would you want someone fighting beside you that you didn't feel qualified to do so in the " serious business " of war?
And as an aside... Are ALL men able to pass the physical test?
Stop talking out both sides of your face.
Women were not required to sign up for the draft nor "allowed" to go into combat. We didn't make the rules nor have any say. Stop blaming us for things that men put into place.
Women should be drafted and enter combat, but you'd worry that she would be putting lives in danger, but they should be required?

I'm not complaining I'm just point it out. Although new laws have been passed.
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Old 05-11-2016, 03:58 AM
 
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Oh for crying out loud. Your arguments were pretty much torn apart by many of the posters here, Bigbadmike.

I got to wonder though... What would your ideal society look like?

That's your opinion. Just because I'm out number doesn't mean it was torn apart. It was challenged. Why do women fear when men talk?
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:03 AM
 
Location: Manchester, UK
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That's your opinion. Just because I'm out number doesn't mean it was torn apart. It was challenged. Why do women fear when men talk?

It sure is my opinion. I don't "fear" you talking lol.

I note that you haven't answered my question yet -
What would your ideal society look like?
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:09 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Ha ha IM amazed this silly thread has so many responses including my own..
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Old 05-11-2016, 06:40 AM
 
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It sure is my opinion. I don't "fear" you talking lol.

I note that you haven't answered my question yet -
What would your ideal society look like?
Traditional family. People need to stop looking gender as an enemy. People are generally selfish men and women. Greed looks like a primary reason for many of the problems I try to look within instead of blaming others.

I was in the MRA community for a short duration and didn't like what I was seeing. I was in the MGTOW community and I didn't agree or like what I was seeing. I observed with the feminists and didn't like I was seeing. I have debated with MRAs too. I have tried debating with mgtow however all I got is silence or weak arguments. Nobody wants to take responsibility.
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Old 05-11-2016, 06:49 AM
 
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Traditional family. People need to stop looking gender as an enemy. People are generally selfish men and women. Greed looks like a primary reason for many of the problems I try to look within instead of blaming others.
I admit I don't have a big excitement over "traditional" family. We chose family that works for us. When that meant it was best for the kids to stay home, I did that. When that meant I worked outside the home in addition to DH, we did that. When it meant that I make the money so he can pursue entrepreneurship, housework and kids, we did that. The proof is in the pudding. We have great kids.

I don't see feminism as looking at gender as an enemy. As a heterosexual woman, I love that my man is a man. I find that feminism has not affected my capacity for love, charity, commitment. It HAS very positively affected my ability to earn, control my own destiny, positively contribute both through my earning and my intelligent judgement to the raising of our children (did I mention how proud I am of our children?). Feminism has also greatly benefited my relationship with my husband, allowing to work as a team, each providing from our position of strength and holding each other up in our position of weakness. I find this much better than prescribing to a gender "role" determination that is arbitrary based on genitalia.
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