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Keep in mind that in many of these poor areas middle class is non-existent and as is the case in Ferguson it is a predominately white government and police force.
If you read through the DOJ report on Ferguson it give you a good idea what is going on there and in other cities and it is almost always disportionately black and minorities. Blacks are arrested in far greater amounts than whites for marijuana use, why is that?
This is an editorial but it gives you a good summary of the report:
Exactly. You take a town like Ferguson, which is mostly poor black people, and then we're supposed to be shocked or something when most of the citations in that town go to poor black people?
Yes, I've seen that DOJ report on Ferguson. Apparently the police were giving out traffic citations in that town. And then subjecting them to a "Byzantine" court that convenes in the early evening. Oh, the horror.
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Exactly. You take a town like Ferguson, which is mostly poor black people, and then we're supposed to be shocked or something when most of the citations in that town go to poor black people?
Yes, I've seen that DOJ report on Ferguson. Apparently the police were giving out traffic citations in that town. And then subjecting them to a "Byzantine" court that convenes in the early evening. Oh, the horror.
There are also poor white people in Ferguson but they don't seem to get arrested and fined as do blacks. Also doing jail time over a traffic violation, reading through this cases gives you a good idea of the flavor in the police dept and court system.
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A 90-year-old man had a warrant issued for his arrest after he failed to timely pay the five citations FPD issued to him during a single traffic stop in 2013. An 83-year-old man had a warrant issued against him when he failed to timely resolve his Derelict Auto violation. A 67-year-old woman told us she was stopped and arrested by a Ferguson police officer for an outstanding warrant for failure to pay a trash-removal citation. She did not know about the warrant until her arrest, and the court ultimately charged her $1,000 in fines, which she continues to pay off in $100 monthly increments despite being on a limited, fixed income. We have heard similar stories from dozens of other individuals and have reviewed court records documenting many additional instances of similarly harsh penalties, often for relatively minor violations.
African Americans experience disparate impact in nearly every aspect of Ferguson’s law enforcement system. Despite making up 67% of the population, African Americans accounted for 85% of FPD’s traffic stops, 90% of FPD’s citations, and 93% of FPD’s arrests from 2012 to 2014. Other statistical disparities, set forth in detail below, show that in Ferguson
The problem with the Ferguson investigation is the politics that created it. I have no doubt it makes some legitimate points and that some were treated differently than others BUT NYC singled out blacks for years and not a word was said by this administration.
What happened to Eric Garner was far more offensive IMO than what happened in Ferguson, but where were was the justice department?
There are also poor white people in Ferguson but they don't seem to get arrested and fined as do blacks. Also doing jail time over a traffic violation, reading through this cases gives you a good idea of the flavor in the police dept and court system.
As is pointed out in the article, disparate impact is proof of nothing, and isn't even the legal standard. If a town is 70% black, then do 70% of citations have to be given to black people, I guess? What would suffice for evidence of discrimination? 71%? 75%?
But I don't know why I'm bothering. Some people just love to think that black people are being put down by the evil white man, and will go to any lengths to justify their claims. Don't let me spoil your fun.
"As New York moves to decriminalize low-level offenses, arguing enforcement is “rigged against communities of color,” other large cities are coming under pressure from the Justice Department to do the same thing.
Attorney General Loretta Lynch has issued a warning to municipal and state judges across the country that their courts could lose federal funding if they don’t ease up on fines and arrest warrants for minor crimes involving poor offenders, indigent minorities in particular."
The ignorant do not understand, we may be a nation of laws, but those laws which number in the millions, have to be enforced, or they are just "feel good legislation" to shut the people up, for a few more years.
Law after law, layers upon layers of legislation and none of it ever meant to be enforced.
The only people free, are those capable of buying off the law that is placed upon them.
As is pointed out in the article, disparate impact is proof of nothing, and isn't even the legal standard. If a town is 70% black, then do 70% of citations have to be given to black people, I guess? What would suffice for evidence of discrimination? 71%? 75%?
But I don't know why I'm bothering. Some people just love to think that black people are being put down by the evil white man, and will go to any lengths to justify their claims. Don't let me spoil your fun.
Ferguson didn't even fight the lawsuit brought by DOJ, you can dismiss those numbers all you want but those numbers are pretty glaring not to mention the details of many of the cases. The Sheriffs and administrators publically admitted that this was just a money making venture and they are not the only city in the nation doing the same.
Blacks were arrested 93% of the time, make your case for that one.
The ignorant do not understand, we may be a nation of laws, but those laws which number in the millions, have to be enforced, or they are just "feel good legislation" to shut the people up, for a few more years.
Law after law, layers upon layers of legislation and none of it ever meant to be enforced.
The only people free, are those capable of buying off the law that is placed upon them.
Fine just enforce them equally, start off with marijuana arrests where whites are far under represented. Maybe they just smoke a lot less than black people.
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