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The cake is not part of the wedding ceremony. It is not even seen until after the couple are married. The cake is not in the church, or pushed down the aisle. It is not required to be there for the couple to get married. It is served at the reception.
Why do we even have such a thing that people commonly refer to as a "wedding cake" if it's not a part of the wedding celebration?
Man, you people REEEALLY are splitting hairs here.
Cakes are part of the gay wedding or any wedding for that matter. If they were not, there would be no story here, no issue.
The baker does not want to P A R T I C I P A T E in a gay wedding because of his religious beliefs.
The baker is not participating in the wedding. They are not even invited to the wedding. They do not walk anyone down the aisle, or officiate. They do not sign the marriage license or carry the rings. They bake a cake, which is what they chose to do when they opened a bakery.
PS. Cakes are part of the RECEPTION, not the WEDDING.
Is it as un-American as saying one group of people is less than? Because I seem to remember the words "All men are created equal" having some importance in America.
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There is no law that says everyone around you is required to protect your dignity.
And baker's refusal to bake the cake is because he is against gay marriage... NOT GAY PEOPLE... gay marriage.
But nevermind.
Sorry, but that's total BS. There are discrimination laws protecting consumers, and saying "I don't hate gay people, I just hate it when they're treated like people" is the dumbest possible argument.
The cake is not part of the wedding ceremony. It is not even seen until after the couple are married. The cake is not in the church, or pushed down the aisle. It is not required to be there for the couple to get married. It is served at the reception.
A wedding care is a big part of the celebration. Some would feel they are endorsing/accepting/approving of a gay marriage were they to support the event by baking wedding cake.
The baker is not participating in the wedding. They are not even invited to the wedding. They do not walk anyone down the aisle, or officiate. They do not sign the marriage license or carry the rings. They bake a cake, which is what they chose to do when they opened a bakery.
PS. Cakes are part of the RECEPTION, not the WEDDING.
The bakers feel different then you. It doesn't seem like you have even attempted to try and see it from their point of view.
So do you have the right to go into a Jewish bakery and demand a cake with a huge swastika on it? Under your rules he MUST make it for you, right?
Can you go into a black owned bakery and demand a cake depicting a lynching because it will be used at a KKK rally? Under your rules he MUST make it for you, right?
Yes or no?
Do they OFFER cakes with swastikas or lynchings? If not then they do not have to sell them to anyone.
You cannot be a bigot and a moral or ethical person.
Well, now...'bigot', 'moral' and 'ethical' are definitions in the 'eye of the beholder'. Or, are you a Supreme Being making that pronouncement?
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