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Old 08-30-2016, 04:15 PM
 
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I read your post making that baseless claim.

I fully understand you believe that.

The warship's defensive systems would work very well if it was a serious confrontation.
So, the warship's defensive systems would hit the fighter anyway even if all the electronics is down?

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And that was a very cute adolescent video. Obviously you like it.

I like comments to this vid even more. Just read what "adolescent" people around the world say.
Bet you will feel a little boy.
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Old 08-30-2016, 04:24 PM
 
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Nobody believes that.
Wow! Have you got a special authority to speak for all people here?
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Old 08-30-2016, 04:26 PM
 
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Wow! Have you got a special authority to speak for all people here?
Well, people are free to pipe up if they disagree.
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Old 08-30-2016, 04:31 PM
 
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You mean to say you didn't know? Here's a nice photo of the Udaloy-class destroyer Vice Admiral Kulakov entering the port of Havana. Note the lack of childlike antics on the part of the US Navy.
You didn't answer my question and I am forced to repeat it again :
So if Cuba will invite Russia to join their maneuvers, you will be okey with it? It wouldn't be the US business, right?
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Old 08-30-2016, 04:36 PM
 
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Well, people are free to pipe up if they disagree.
Then read people comments to the video and you will see that your statement - nobody believes that - sounds foolish.
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Old 08-30-2016, 04:42 PM
 
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You didn't answer my question and I am forced to repeat it again :
So if Cuba will invite Russia to join their maneuvers, you will be okey with it? It wouldn't be the US business, right?
I thought it was implied, but here goes: It happens all the time - well, as often as the Russian Navy can hustle up navy units that'll make it that far - and the US does not do childish flyovers, nor pout about how "Russia must not interfere".

Unlike Russia's military, who appears to be dealing with a crushing collective inferiority complex, the US' military strength is known and understood. The US has the big stick and can afford to walk softly.
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Old 08-30-2016, 04:43 PM
 
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Then read people comments to the video and you will see that your statement - nobody believes that - sounds foolish.
You're using Youtube comments to bolster your argument?
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Old 08-30-2016, 05:09 PM
 
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I thought it was implied, but here goes: It happens all the time - well, as often as the Russian Navy can hustle up navy units that'll make it that far - and the US does not do childish flyovers.
This is because the US fears to do so. What if these f--g russians hit the fighter?

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Unlike Russia's military, who appears to be dealing with a crushing collective inferiority complex, the US' military strength is known and understood. The US has the big stick and can afford to walk softly.
Dane, I like your patriotism and it is fully respected. But you sound ignorant, sorry.
The russians won all their wars mostly by their rigid and unbending spirit, not by some advanced weaponry.
The US "big stick" has been broken once by a crushing collective inferiority complex back in 1988.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4jQhnXrWbg

Hitler thought in the same way as you do but his arse has been torn apart really badly by the "outdated" russian power.

P.S. And why did you delete your statement that the US knows about "the international waters law"?
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Old 08-30-2016, 05:18 PM
 
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You're using Youtube comments to bolster your argument?
You lost your own thought, dude. You claimed that nobody believes that, and I recommended you to see what the youtube people around the world say about it. What argument you're talking about?
You are really a smart guy, but it's too foolish to think that you are smarter than people on youtube. So, youtube is not bolster, youtube comments show the trend.
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Old 08-30-2016, 05:31 PM
 
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Nobody believes that.
Well...no one not Russian, and based upon reality believes that. If the Russians could do this they would have a long time ago.

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It was a regular bomber which was returning back to airbase "empty" after the pilots dropped all the bombs on the ISIS military objects. The bomber had no weaponry to fight with F-16. But most important thing is that the bomber pilots haven't expected the F-16 would attack them. It was the stab in the back and provocation in the same time.
Yes, Erdogan claimed that the bomber intruded in the turkish airspace and the bomber was warned about it many times, but it is BS.
After this incident all of the russian bombers are guided and escorted by the russian fighters. And turkish F-16's were not seen in the Syrian sky no more.
I disagree with you a lot, but this is pretty accurate. Its one thing to shoot down a plane that is not expecting it, and not armed to respond. Its quite another to take down a plane expecting trouble. And training counts a lot. No idea which party is better trained, but if I had to guess it is the Russian ones.

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This is because the US fears to do so. What if these f--g russians hit the fighter?


Dane, I like your patriotism and it is fully respected. But you sound ignorant, sorry.
The russians won all their wars mostly by their rigid and unbending spirit, not by some advanced weaponry.
The US "big stick" has been broken once by a crushing collective inferiority complex back in 1988.
Please. I am a bit more familiar with how the US military viewed that specific incident as I was in the military when it occurred. Theres no inferiority complex. Not then, not now. BTW unbending spirit? How did Afghanistan go for you guys? Yeah, us too. Outside of attacking someones homeland that spirit isn't there nearly as much for any country really.

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Hitler thought in the same way as you do but his arse has been torn apart really badly by the "outdated" russian power.

P.S. And why did you delete your statement that the US knows about "the international waters law"?
Hitler made many mistakes that kept the Russians going, and I will say this, when it comes to defending the Homeland, us and the Russians are pretty much the same. Russia had a 13% loss in population during the war, 26 million dead. Germany's losses were far smaller. And those numbers? Irrelevant. In the end Russia won because it was their homeland. When you invade someones homeland you better have massive advantages. Something no one has today among the big countries.
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