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Old 04-28-2016, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
You can legally purchase a gun regardless of whether you have a mentally ill relation resident in your home.
Are you suggesting that someone should give up their 2nd A right if a mentally ill person lives in the same house?

 
Old 04-28-2016, 12:55 PM
 
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Originally Posted by rigby06 View Post
This is already posted in the Guns & Hunting form but it also need to be hear in this form as well.

This is shameful



Sandy Hook Victims' Lawsuit Against Gun Companies Will Proceed : The Two-Way : NPR
Can't wait to see "discovery".

Course, the courts are a joke, now.
 
Old 04-28-2016, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
You can legally purchase a gun regardless of whether you have a mentally ill relation resident in your home.
So.... what's the basis for the lawsuit again? You can't sue a manufacturer for legally selling their product....

Last edited by WhipperSnapper 88; 04-28-2016 at 03:01 PM..
 
Old 04-28-2016, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by Hyperthetic View Post
Can't wait to see "discovery"..
It wont make it that far....

Here's an article explaining why this ruling doesn't actually mean much, and from an anti-gun site to boot...

What The New Ruling In The Sandy Hook Lawsuit Actually Means - The Trace
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"""A Connecticut judge ruled Thursday that a closely watched lawsuit filed by families of victims killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School against the manufacturer of the AR-15 rifle used in the 2012 massacre can proceed
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The victims’ legal team declared the decision, which overruled the defendant’s motion to dismiss, a “huge victory,” but experts say the ruling is relatively narrow, and does not address the biggest hurdle for the plaintiffs: surmounting a decade-old law that shields gun manufacturers from most liability claims. Judge Barbara Bellis decided only that she has the authority to continue to hear the case — not whether the lawsuit is viable under the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA).
“It kicked the can down the road a little bit,” Sachin Pandya, a University of Connecticut law professor, tells The Trace of the decision """

Last edited by WhipperSnapper 88; 04-28-2016 at 03:13 PM..
 
Old 04-28-2016, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Originally Posted by Hyperthetic View Post
Can't wait to see "discovery".

Course, the courts are a joke, now.
They were once legit???
 
Old 04-28-2016, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper 88 View Post
It wont make it that far....


Here's an article explaining why this ruling doesn't actually mean much, and from an anti-gun site to boot...


https://www.thetrace.org/2016/04/wha...lawsuit-means/


This is directly quoted from that article


"The case, Soto v. Bushmaster Firearms, was filed in 2014 in Connecticut state court by relatives of nine of the 26 children and adults that Adam Lanza killed at Sandy Hook Elementary on December 12, 2012. The plaintiffs argue that Bushmaster, the manufacturer of the AR-15 rifle Lanza used in his rampage, along with weapon’s distributor, are liable for the victims’ deaths because of how they market to civilians a military-grade gun “engineered to deliver maximum carnage with extreme efficiency.”"


Whoever put forth this part of their legal brief, have no real idea of rifles and their respective energy potential. The .223 round is medium level rifle round, there are many much more powerful rifle rounds that are used in today's world. The .223 round is used because it is manageable by most shooters for being relatively mild for recoil. All rifles are designed to be more accurate than then pistols due to the increased barrel length.


And in the strictest sense of the word, bullets are designed to penetrate into a target with kinetic energy. It is a simply formula, the weight of the bullet + the speed at which it is going = the kinetic energy it will deliver. Now there are other factors, such as speed decreases as the bullet travels, the angel of impact, along with other factors that I am not 100% familiar with. But if their statement of “engineered to deliver maximum carnage with extreme efficiency.” was true, Adam Lanza would have used a much more powerful round to maximize the carnage with a more powerful round. But instead he used what was at hand.
 
Old 04-28-2016, 05:49 PM
 
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I heard of this point before and it is weird, but it just shows these people are acting strangely. Not entirely too suspicious in my mind, maybe it is just emotion overload.


If you guys never seen videos of them walking in circles, find it on youtube, now that is suspicious.
 
Old 04-28-2016, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper 88 View Post
So.... what's the basis for the lawsuit again? You can't sue a manufacturer for legally selling their product....
Why the concern for no other industry but guns, this is not the only industry that can get sued for any number of reasons.
 
Old 04-28-2016, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by Tyster View Post
Are you suggesting that someone should give up their 2nd A right if a mentally ill person lives in the same house?
Do you think its sensible to own several guns when you share a house with a mentally ill person.
 
Old 04-28-2016, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Itinerant
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
Do you think its sensible to own several guns when you share a house with a mentally ill person.
You probably already do, even if you live alone.

I'd bet dollars to donuts, that if you or someone who shared you house went to a psychologist for a mental health diagnosis, one of you would come back with some classification of mental illness that's in the DSM IV-TR, which is the definition of someone with mental illness. Here's some stats. http://www2.nami.org/factsheets/ment..._factsheet.pdf

Or we could stop scapegoating people with mental health conditions who are more likely to be the victims of crime, than to be the perpetrators of crime than the rest of the population. http://www.apa.org/news/press/releas...ess-crime.aspx
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