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Old 05-27-2016, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Every single riot or civil unrest event as far back as I can recall have been instigated by liberals or democrats.

When is the last time a bunch of rednecks started a violent riot? (OK, but the Bundy thing doesn't count.)

Every revolution I can think of since 1900 was started by leftists and resulted in totalitarian states.

It seems they are a threat to stability and freedom. Maybe leftists and democrats are the problem and are putting the republic at risk.
I guess you've completely forgotten about right wing gems like Timothy McVeigh or the KKK?

Right-Wing Terrorists Are Killing More Americans Than Jihadists Are, And Now The DOJ Will Act | ThinkProgress

 
Old 05-27-2016, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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I guess you've completely forgotten about right wing gems like Timothy McVeigh or the KKK?

Right-Wing Terrorists Are Killing More Americans Than Jihadists Are, And Now The DOJ Will Act | ThinkProgress
LOL! McVeigh was ONE GUY.

And the KKK was created by DEMOCRATS.

And... ThinkProgress? Are you kidding? You may as well cite Karl Marx.
 
Old 05-27-2016, 09:57 AM
 
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Originally Posted by jamies View Post
Every single riot or civil unrest event as far back as I can recall have been instigated by liberals or democrats.

When is the last time a bunch of rednecks started a violent riot? (OK, but the Bundy thing doesn't count.)

Every revolution I can think of since 1900 was started by leftists and resulted in totalitarian states.

It seems they are a threat to stability and freedom. Maybe leftists and democrats are the problem and are putting the republic at risk.
Are Islamic extremists liberal? None of their views seem liberal. And the Ted Bundy thing does count. You can't say it doesn't just because you don't want it to.

Violence isn't purely a result of political ideology. The Nazis were fairly violent and I wouldn't describe them as liberal. Would you? But why did the Nazis do what they did? Widespread poverty in Germany after WWI made life in Germany incredibly miserable. Hitler shows up saying he's going to turn the economy around (which he technically did, at least for a while) and restore Germany to what it once was. The 'what it once was' thing is pretty important. How often do liberals or any left leaning party really want to restore something that once was, in this example, a German Empire. Hitler did appeal to the works, a common tactic among socialist and communist groups, but that doesn't really make the Nazi movement as aspect of the left, especially since communism works to create a classless society while the Nazis created a rigid class system.

You can point to current activists groups who start violent protests, and many do seem to be on the left of the scale. But understand why. The left has always stood up for those who are oppressed, or claims to stand up to it in some cases. So when Black Lives Matter protests turn violent, understand why. Acts of violence and terrorism are the result of feeling (rather or not it's literally true almost doesn't matter at this level) like no other means of political speech will be taken seriously. This is key and it explains almost every violent act, possibly ever. It works for the French Revolution. By nature, in the late 1700s, those who support monarchs were "conservative" and those who did not were "liberal." Eventually, the king has his head sliced off in a public square. Pretty violent. But let's understand that violence, while always bad, doesn't necessarily mean the motive is unjust.
 
Old 05-27-2016, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Houston
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LOL! McVeigh was ONE GUY.

And the KKK was created by DEMOCRATS.

And... ThinkProgress? Are you kidding? You may as well cite Karl Marx.
Deny all you want, Tyster. Still doesn't change the facts. It's been well documented that right wingers in this country have been far more violent than any liberal group has ever been. Sure there's been violence on both sides but nothing like the right's.
 
Old 05-27-2016, 10:16 AM
 
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Aw man that dastardly civil unrest. It's interesting that mass shooters/terrorists tend to be more right leaning..

Timothy McVeigh, thought the govt was on the wrong track........he was raised by a Democrat, Union family........I don't see anything but Wikipedia and such making the claim he was Republican, but this is a Democrat talking point.

Dylann Roof, wanted to start a race war............ http://louderwithcrowder.com/myths-debunked-top-5-reasons-dylan-roof-was-actually-a-liberal-activist/#ixzz49s9K1nzw

Skinheads, white supremacy and the KKK – these groups, admired by Dylann Roof, weren’t founded by conservatives. Shocked? Time for a history lesson. In his book A Short History of Reconstruction, Dr. Eric Foner (liberal historian and professor) explains, “The Klan was a military force serving the interests of the Democratic party, the planter class, and all those who desired the restoration of white supremacy. It aimed to destroy the Republican party’s infrastructure, undermine the Reconstruction state, reestablish control of the black labor force, and restore racial subordination in every aspect of Southern life.” Sound kinda like Dylan Roof to you?

Dylan Roof liked to burn the American flag. Find me one Conservative who has burned the American flag. ONE.

Do whatever you want! Your body, your choice – it doesn’t matter what other people think because it doesn’t affect them! Dylann Roof started off as an unparented, overly medicated kid, and ended up a loser addicted to drugs. He’s practically a walking PSA.

Charles Manson has come out in favor of Trump....... Honestly amazing, what people believe.....without even researching.
Charles Manson Endorses Trump : snopes.com#!
Claim: Notorious criminal Charles Manson has endorsed Donald Trump for president.
False



Eric Rudolf, Olympic city bomber, was taking a stand against homosexuality and abortion... yet below sounds like this man hated ALL Americans or at least most of us.
Eric Rudolph's manifesto
The Republican party is the modern day equivalent to the Pharisaical sect in ancient Judea. "You are like whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and all uncleanness. Even so you also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within you are full of hypocrisy and inequity." Matthew 23:28.


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But the liberals are absolutely the more violent ones.
I think you summed it up!
 
Old 05-27-2016, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Texas
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So entertaining to see the right trying to disavow their own.

 
Old 05-27-2016, 10:42 AM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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The divisiveness, especially by those on the right, is so pathetic and gets this country nowhere.
 
Old 05-27-2016, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Houston
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So entertaining to see the right trying to disavow their own.

Isn't it though? It's amazing how much they squirm around trying so hard to distance themselves from their brethren. That piece from 3Shepherds will surely be remembered as a classic, as true a BS artist as they come! I guess they think everyone else are idiots.
 
Old 05-27-2016, 11:01 AM
 
Location: College Hill
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Originally Posted by jamies View Post
Every single riot or civil unrest event as far back as I can recall have been instigated by liberals or democrats.

When is the last time a bunch of rednecks started a violent riot? (OK, but the Bundy thing doesn't count.)

Every revolution I can think of since 1900 was started by leftists and resulted in totalitarian states.

It seems they are a threat to stability and freedom. Maybe leftists and democrats are the problem and are putting the republic at risk.
That right?

The Atlanta Olympics. Bomber was a right wing Talibangical.
The Oklahoma City bombing. Right winger and registered as a Republican at age 18.

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Originally Posted by West Point Center for Combating Terrorism
In the last few years, and especially since 2007, there has been a dramatic rise in the
number of attacks and violent plots originating from individuals and groups who self-identify
with the far-right of American politics.
These incidents cause many to wonder
whether these are isolated attacks, an increasing trend, part of increasing societal
violence, or attributable to some other condition. To date, however, there has been
limited systematic documentation and analysis of incidents of American domestic violence.
and...

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Right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities, according to a study by Arie Perliger, a professor at the United States Military Academy’s Combating Terrorism Center. The toll has increased since the study was released in 2012.

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So. You were saying?

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Originally Posted by 3~Shepherds View Post
Timothy McVeigh, thought the govt was on the wrong track........he was raised by a Democrat, Union family........I don't see anything but Wikipedia and such making the claim he was Republican, but this is a Democrat talking point.
See this informative, non-partisan report on PBS. He was a registered Republican at age 18. I mean, you can run from the facts but they are still there...
 
Old 05-27-2016, 11:03 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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LOL! McVeigh was ONE GUY.

And the KKK was created by DEMOCRATS.

And... ThinkProgress? Are you kidding? You may as well cite Karl Marx.
the Democrats who created the KKK would call themselves Republicans now.
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