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View Poll Results: Should Hillary be charged with Treason for allowing easy access to State Department emails?
yes 51 58.62%
no 31 35.63%
other 4 4.60%
not sure 1 1.15%
Voters: 87. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-01-2016, 02:28 PM
 
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You know, it's interesting. You say yes, she should be charged with treason. Then you give an explanation that does nothing to explain HOW what she did was treason. It's almost like you don't know what you're talking about, but chose to offer your opinion anyway.
It's a pity you aren't smart enough to do your own research. Pay special attention to the word "aid".


And don't ask me to explain again. If you're capable of being here, you're capable of thinking for yourself.


Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
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Old 06-01-2016, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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You don't have to be, in your goofy words, officially charged. What the hell! Get a clue!
If your boss even remotely suspects you of something, anything, he has the right to fire your butt. We, the People are firing that hideous Hillary. She doesn't belong anywhere near America!

IF you did your homework for clearance, you know that there are steps for removing anything from a govt employee or elected official- there are incident reports, interviews, policy review and so forth- the most common are proven facts of misconduct to disqualify you from holding a SS--or SCI are listed below

Adjudicative Guidelines
A: Allegiance to the United States
B: Foreign Influence
C: Foreign Preference
D: Sexual Behavior
E: Personal Conduct
F: Financial Considerations
G: Alcohol Consumption
H: Drug Involvement
I: Psychological Conditions
J: Criminal Conduct
K: Handling Protected Information
L: Outside Activities
M: Use of Information Technology Systems

The congress "interrogations"- and other investigations have not yielded fruit- to remove any clearances -at least to this date

and you can scream all you want- not changing a thing--- per my goofy words
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Old 06-01-2016, 04:00 PM
 
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It's a pity you aren't smart enough to do your own research. Pay special attention to the word "aid".


And don't ask me to explain again. If you're capable of being here, you're capable of thinking for yourself.


Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
She didn't give the enemies aid. That would require her to send copies of the emails to the enemies, which as far as I know, didn't happen. I know your imply that on a private server, the emails would be more easily compromised, but they'd still have to be compromised. I don't see how that constitutes as treason.

On a side no, there is no polite way to say this, but if you don't want people to ask you to explain yourself, do the world a favor and never speak again. When you make any political statement, you should be deeply saddened if no one questions it. Instead, you request it. I find that repulsive.
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Old 06-01-2016, 06:56 PM
 
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Can we also (please) boil her in a vat of gutter oil.. while taping her eyes permanently open, so she can forever stare at Donald Trump and his sign that says, "Clinton in Prison 2016"....
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Old 06-01-2016, 07:50 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Default Other statutes may yet come into play...

Intel source: IG report ups pressure on DOJ to seek criminal charges against Clinton | Fox News

...I'm still doubtful, but who knows.
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:22 PM
 
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You mean like Petraeus who shared confidential information with his mistress? Like that?
Did the DOJ take action against him?
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:33 PM
 
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Can't stand Hillary, but the Constitution clearly spells out treason. On this offense she doesn't qualify.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiii
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Old 06-01-2016, 10:21 PM
 
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Did the DOJ take action against him?
From Wikipedia:

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In January 2015, the New York Times reported that the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Justice Department had recommended bringing felony charges against Petraeus for providing classified information to Broadwell. Petraeus denied the allegations and was reported to have had no interest in a plea deal.[196] However, on Tuesday, March 3, 2015, the U.S. Justice Department announced that Petraeus agreed to plead guilty in federal court in Charlotte, North Carolina to a charge of unauthorized removal and retention of classified information.[197] On April 23, 2015, a federal judge sentenced Petraeus to two years’ probation plus a fine of $100,000. The fine was more than double the amount the Justice Department had requested.
Notice that the element of having transferred the classified material to an unauthorized person (which is a fundamental element of the Espionage Act) was omitted from his plea deal.
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Old 06-01-2016, 10:29 PM
 
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Should Hillary be charged with Treason for allowing easy access to State Department emails?
Charge her and let Biden take her place
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Old 06-01-2016, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Should Hillary be charged with Treason for allowing easy access to State Department emails?
Should the Secretary of State have difficult access to email?
This question is profoundly stupid. The Secretary of State is responsible for the entire agency. An Secretary has the obligation of knowing what agency email contains.

Was her own server a dumb idea? Yes.
But it was more secure than Colin Powell's use of AOL.

However, comparing them is apples and oranges, as the internet was different when Powell served as Secretary.
Why did both use different servers? Because they needed an email source at home or in their off hours. Like the Presidency, the Secretary of State job is a 24 hour deal.

In hindsight, both of them should have gotten a government tech to set up a government server that was connected directly to the State Dept. servers, but all of the Secretaries so far have been human, and humans make mistakes every day of their lives.

The question that hasn't been asked so far is how hard the Clinton server was to hack. It's very likely that the private server had much more protection system wide than the government's servers. The government still gives out contracts to the lowest bidder. Individuals can choose any kind of internet service they wish, and the good ones are extremely secure.

Ain't a cowboy who can't be throwed, and ain't a horse that can't be rode, but there are horses who've broken a lot of cowboy's necks before finally getting one that could stay on to the end. So it is with internet servers. Any of them can be hacked in theory, but in practice, it's a different story.
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