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Old 06-18-2016, 10:30 AM
 
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Things are just not what they used to be. Every election from here on out comes down to this choice: Liberty or tyranny. At the moment, tyranny is in charge of everything. It shouldn't be hard to figure out in this day and age, but that's where we're at right now. Sad, but true. Politics never have been a very friendly battle, but they used to be just mere disagreements way back when. Now the left wants to literally murder those with whom they disagree. It's appalling.



Why are you so angry and hateful?



That's why we have a First Amendment and why the government needs to leave us alone and let us speak and function however we desire. The Constitution still stands and is still the greatest government document ever.

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Old 06-18-2016, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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The Democrats, leftists and progressives are the very fascists that they claim to hate.
You do realize what you actually said was, that the left is for far left that they are right wing extremists.

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Old 06-19-2016, 02:17 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Just exactly which of your Constitutional Rights have Liberals denied? I hear lots of complaints but very few specifics. Some details please.

Were they bluffing, when we were all told, that we would be forced to comply and maybe killed, if we did not consent?
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Old 06-19-2016, 04:26 AM
 
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Yes, the Democrats, liberals and leftists are today's fascists.

They don't believe in individual rights and freedoms, or equal treatment of individuals before the law.

Instead, they favor group rights and privileges, and unequal treatment of groups before the law. Hence, racial and gender preferences (affirmative action) that discriminate against whites and males. Hence, the replacement of a "reasonable person" standard with a "reasonable woman" standard in judging cases of sexual harassment.

They don't believe in free speech -- witness speech codes on college campuses that are dominated by liberals. Witness the disinviting or shouting down of speakers that liberals and leftists disagree with. Witness the Obama administration requiring that "Islamic terrorism", "Islamic extremism," "Jihad," and similar terms be completely removed from government communications, training materials and documents.

They don't believe in the right of individuals to defend themselves. They want to disarm law-abiding Americans in the face not only of terrorism, but in the face of an ever larger and more intrusive government.

At the same time, they support crony capitalism (with the government favoring certain companies, groups and individuals) -- which is the very definition of fascism when combined with manipulating the currency, interest rates, and refusing to tie the value of money to a set standard (Republicans are equally guilty of this.) The classic example of this was the Clinton Administration's decision to order Fannie and Freddie to buy $2.4 trillion in sub-prime loans over a 10 year period starting in 1999 in order to "create affordable housing." We know how that worked out....the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, caused by the Democrats but falsely blamed on Wall Street and the Republicans.

They favor impoverishing American workers and the middle class by importing huge amounts of cheap legal and illegal immigrant labor and by offshoring jobs, so that only they and their government stooges will prosper, while most other people will be turned into a wage slave or the equivalent of a ward of the all powerful state.

(Republicans are also guilty here -- conservatives should ask themselves, Are Republicans nowadays really just liberals in disguise? Why, yes, most of them are. They are technically "neo-cons," meaning that they subscribe to creating an internationalist economic system, weakening our national sovereignty, throwing the middle class under the bus, and fighting wars that we are unlikely to win and don't even try to win because it's all about the defense industry making money -- that's all. "Neo-con" = former liberal who has turned "conservative." Take the idea of "nation building." That idea started with John F. Kennedy in Vietnam -- and he was no Republican.)

They couldn't care less about most workers in the private sector. Instead, they have turned government into a lucrative welfare system for themselves and for the unionized government employees who pool their dues to support their political campaigns at the national, state, regional and local levels. This is the big corruption story of this century. Government employees bribing Democrat and liberal politicians to give them salaries and benefits that they could never earn in the private sector -- and all at taxpayer expense. Of course, there is SOME concern for unions in the private sector. Thus GM bondholders got screwed, while unionized workers prospered under Obama. But that concern doesn't stop the Democrats from wanting to flood the country with cheap foreign labor that threatens unions in the private sector.

And they couldn't care less that ordinary Americans are impoverished, die in pointless but profitable (for the defense industry and Wall Street) wars, or are vulnerable to Islamic terrorism. Indeed, making Americans economically and physically insecure is the very best way to rule over them and control them. And let's not forget -- don't let them smoke cigarettes, make them pay a tax on sugar (as in Philadelphia), use "smart growth" to cram them like rats into ever smaller and more expensive living quarters in noisy cities, but keep the alcohol and drugs flowing in order to pacify them. And make sure the media only tells the side of the story they want people to hear.

Global "warming" and other environmental causes are another way that the left puts Americans in their place. Now it's bad to drive, use energy, etc. -- so of course you're going to pay more and more and more to do all of those things. By thus taking your money, the leftist dominated government makes you weaker and more easy to intimidate and control.

Try living in a city dominated by libs such as Berkeley, CA. You can't smoke a cigarette. If you need to drive across town, there are barriers in the middle of intersections to force you to keep turning down side streets so that your trip take five times as long (because cars are "evil" -- never mind that public transit in Berkeley sucks). If you're older and try to look reasonably attractive, you're being "bourgeois." But it's just fine and dandy if Occupy Wall Street comes and burns down your neighborhood. And of course, you pay lots and lots of money for the "privilege" of living in what amounts to an overpriced, slummy looking sewer.

Oh, and if you're on the Berkeley campus and someone is looking lost in one of the huge campus buildings, you can't say, "Can I help you?" because that is a "micro-aggression." Everything for the libs comes down to group think, stereotypes, and the division of people on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, class, sexual orientation, sexual identity, and whatever the libs will think up next. You have no existence or value as an individual, or as just "you" in your uniqueness as far as the fascist liberals are concerned. If you try to assert your individuality, you are turning yourself into a square peg that can't be fitted into a round hole -- and the fascist liberals can never permit that. So if you go down that path, they'll do everything from roll their eyes to fly into a violent rage -- whatever level of force is necessary. Because for the fascist left, it ultimately comes down to force and censorship. They cannot win on the basis of rationality, and they know it.

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Old 06-19-2016, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Yes, the Democrats, liberals and leftists are today's fascists.

They don't believe in individual rights and freedoms, or equal treatment of individuals before the law.

Instead, they favor group rights and privileges, and unequal treatment of groups before the law. Hence, racial and gender preferences (affirmative action) that discriminate against whites and males. Hence, the replacement of a "reasonable person" standard with a "reasonable woman" standard in judging cases of sexual harassment.

They don't believe in free speech -- witness speech codes on college campuses that are dominated by liberals. Witness the disinviting or shouting down of speakers that liberals and leftists disagree with. Witness the Obama administration requiring that "Islamic terrorism", "Islamic extremism," "Jihad," and similar terms be completely removed from government communications, training materials and documents.

They don't believe in the right of individuals to defend themselves. They want to disarm law-abiding Americans in the face not only of terrorism, but in the face of an ever larger and more intrusive government.

At the same time, they support crony capitalism (with the government favoring certain companies, groups and individuals) -- which is the very definition of fascism when combined with manipulating the currency, interest rates, and refusing to tie the value of money to a set standard (Republicans are equally guilty of this.) The classic example of this was the Clinton Administration's decision to order Fannie and Freddie to buy $2.4 trillion in sub-prime loans over a 10 year period starting in 1999 in order to "create affordable housing." We know how that worked out....the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, caused by the Democrats but falsely blamed on Wall Street and the Republicans.

They favor impoverishing American workers and the middle class by importing huge amounts of cheap legal and illegal immigrant labor and by offshoring jobs, so that only they and their government stooges will prosper, while most other people will be turned into a wage slave or the equivalent of a ward of the all powerful state.

(Republicans are also guilty here -- conservatives should ask themselves, Are Republicans nowadays really just liberals in disguise? Why, yes, most of them are. They are technically "neo-cons," meaning that they subscribe to creating an internationalist economic system, weakening our national sovereignty, throwing the middle class under the bus, and fighting wars that we are unlikely to win and don't even try to win because it's all about the defense industry making money -- that's all. "Neo-con" = former liberal who has turned "conservative." Take the idea of "nation building." That idea started with John F. Kennedy in Vietnam -- and he was no Republican.)

They couldn't care less about most workers in the private sector. Instead, they have turned government into a lucrative welfare system for themselves and for the unionized government employees who pool their dues to support their political campaigns at the national, state, regional and local levels. This is the big corruption story of this century. Government employees bribing Democrat and liberal politicians to give them salaries and benefits that they could never earn in the private sector -- and all at taxpayer expense. Of course, there is SOME concern for unions in the private sector. Thus GM bondholders got screwed, while unionized workers prospered under Obama. But that concern doesn't stop the Democrats from wanting to flood the country with cheap foreign labor that threatens unions in the private sector.

And they couldn't care less that ordinary Americans are impoverished, die in pointless but profitable (for the defense industry and Wall Street) wars, or are vulnerable to Islamic terrorism. Indeed, making Americans economically and physically insecure is the very best way to rule over them and control them. And let's not forget -- don't let them smoke cigarettes, make them pay a tax on sugar (as in Philadelphia), use "smart growth" to cram them like rats into ever smaller and more expensive living quarters in noisy cities, but keep the alcohol and drugs flowing in order to pacify them. And make sure the media only tells the side of the story they want people to hear.

Global "warming" and other environmental causes are another way that the left puts Americans in their place. Now it's bad to drive, use energy, etc. -- so of course you're going to pay more and more and more to do all of those things. By thus taking your money, the leftist dominated government makes you weaker and more easy to intimidate and control.

Try living in a city dominated by libs such as Berkeley, CA. You can't smoke a cigarette. If you need to drive across town, there are barriers in the middle of intersections to force you to keep turning down side streets so that your trip take five times as long (because cars are "evil" -- never mind that public transit in Berkeley sucks). If you're older and try to look reasonably attractive, you're being "bourgeois." But it's just fine and dandy if Occupy Wall Street comes and burns down your neighborhood. And of course, you pay lots and lots of money for the "privilege" of living in what amounts to an overpriced, slummy looking sewer.

Oh, and if you're on the Berkeley campus and someone is looking lost in one of the huge campus buildings, you can't say, "Can I help you?" because that is a "micro-aggression." Everything for the libs comes down to group think, stereotypes, and the division of people on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, class, sexual orientation, sexual identity, and whatever the libs will think up next. You have no existence or value as an individual, or as just "you" in your uniqueness as far as the fascist liberals are concerned. If you try to assert your individuality, you are turning yourself into a square peg that can't be fitted into a round hole -- and the fascist liberals can never permit that. So if you go down that path, they'll do everything from roll their eyes to fly into a violent rage -- whatever level of force is necessary. Because for the fascist left, it ultimately comes down to force and censorship. They cannot win on the basis of rationality, and they know it.
could someone summarize this for me? I'm fixing breakfast and this seems like a lot of words and non-structured sentences.
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Old 06-20-2016, 04:35 AM
 
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could someone summarize this for me? I'm fixing breakfast and this seems like a lot of words and non-structured sentences.
Maybe you should read some good books and become literate.
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Old 06-20-2016, 06:45 AM
 
Location: The Island of Misfit Toys
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You know what I love?

I love the fact that after 25+ years of Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Bob Grant, Mark Levin, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin and Laura Ingraham attacking the Clinton's and trying to stop them by any means necessary, they now get to watch them retake the presidency! Awesome!

All those years trying every trick in the book to put the Clinton's away for good and nothing has stopped them!

And here they are again a hair's breathe away from the power of the presidency! And Trump is already getting clobbered out of the gate.

Aww man, that's gotta burn.

The Right Wing tears of unfathomable sadness on election night are gonna be so sweet.

I mean, you failed. You failed miserably. You spent 25+ years trying to take down the Clinton's and you failed miserably.

I mean, Hillary is a demon to conservatives.

How does Rush Limbaugh not commit suicide after this?
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Old 06-20-2016, 06:46 AM
 
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Indeed. Democrats are not interested in what's good for America. They are only interested in political victory.
AT ALL costs, including Freedom which consider expendable or less.
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