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View Poll Results: Should we have stricter gun-ownership laws?
Yes 114 28.08%
No 292 71.92%
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Old 06-27-2008, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Tha' Holler
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The Volokh Conspiracy - -

Here's another interesting blog entry dealing with narrowly defended rights. Like it says, if a right is so narrowly defined, that individual rights practically don't exist, then its not much of a right at all...

 
Old 06-27-2008, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Lakes & Mountains of East TN
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I feel like this landmark day has to be punctuated by a renewed commitment on all our parts to make sure we protect our Second Amendment rights; one of the most important ways I can think of is to make absolutely certain we're practicing pristine safety and make sure we behave like responsible gun owners and encouraging others to do so.

The dark side is watching and waiting for every tragic mistake or error in judgment made by gun owners so that they can use them as ammunition against gun rights.

We need to be responsible, vigilant guardians of our individual rights to gun ownership and encourage others (especially the upcoming "new-gun-owner" population) to take safety classes and become fully knowledgeable and responsible as well. We should also encourage people to participate in the shooting sports and become involved and aware of what's going on around them.

Now more than ever, we can't take chances on giving the other side ammunition to say, "See? It was a bad idea. Look at the statistics of people who have been injured (killed/arrested/whatever) since the SCOTUS decision in 2008? We need to reverse that decision."

WE need to prove them wrong and keep their ammunition from them!
 
Old 06-27-2008, 08:10 AM
 
Location: California
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From what I heard the ruling allows for "regulation" by local authorities. This can make getting the license more expensive than buying the gun. Less affluent people can be denied their rights in this manner even if an absolute ban is unconstitutional. Keep the pressure on your local, county and state governments to make certain that these rights are not taken by bureaucratic bumbling.
Thats what I was thinking, Ca. is already trying to make it harder to buy ammo and run gun prices up with new bills, they will just find other ways to keep honest folks from owning guns.
 
Old 06-27-2008, 08:25 AM
 
Location: California
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I'm wondering what people think of this micro ammo stamp handguns will be required to have here in the future, i think Ca. passed it even though a study showed the stamp could not be read after 1000 rounds which isn't very much.
I think Ca. is just using this to drive up the price of handguns to limit people who can't afford them. I also read in this bill that it won't allow anyone to sell a handgun without the stamping device (private sale) and won't allow handguns to be handed down from family members when they pass away.
Anybody else heard of this?
 
Old 06-27-2008, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Yep, honest folks, in particular poor honest folks. The financial/governmental elites are frightened of the very concept of an armed underclass.

I absolutely agree with and commend bbkaren. We need to be very careful, as most of us have been, with our firearms. They are out there and they do want our guns because they do not trust us and they do not trust each other or themselves.
 
Old 06-27-2008, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Lakes & Mountains of East TN
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Hubby and I are getting our celebratory Springfield XD Subcompact carry pistols in the next few days (he's picking his up as I write this.)

I'm also celebrating receipt just yesterday of my Florida non-resident carry permit, which is reciprocal in 30-something of the United States. (His fingerprints weren't clear enough and need to be redone so he didn't get his yet. Nah Nah! lol)
 
Old 06-27-2008, 09:24 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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Poll taxes and tests were declared a violation of rights because of how difficult they made exercising the right for many. Likewise, I suspect any such attempts to make exercising this right too difficult for the average person will be declared illegal. The licensing requirements were not challenged in this case but in future cases, unreasonable/burdensome requirements for them will be challenged. Assuming the lawsuit against Chicago's handgun ban is a success and results in incorporation (and Scalia as I read it hinted that it would now) NYC, CA, etc. are going to be targeted over their restrictive laws (including carry laws).
 
Old 06-27-2008, 12:19 PM
 
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Default Lawsuits Have Been Filed!

In Chicago, the Illinois State Rifle Association filed suit against Chicago within 15 minutes of the Supremes' Decision.

cbs2chicago.com - Gun Lobby Quickly Sues To Overturn Chicago Ban (http://cbs2chicago.com/local/supreme.court.handguns.2.757471.html - broken link)

Way to go! Let's get it done.
 
Old 06-27-2008, 12:46 PM
 
Location: NY
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In Chicago, the Illinois State Rifle Association filed suit against Chicago within 15 minutes of the Supremes' Decision.

cbs2chicago.com - Gun Lobby Quickly Sues To Overturn Chicago Ban (http://cbs2chicago.com/local/supreme.court.handguns.2.757471.html - broken link)

Way to go! Let's get it done.
Agreed! Lets attack at any and all fronts just as the anti's do every chance they get! Time to get pro-active!
 
Old 06-27-2008, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Tampa Bay
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There was NO gun ownership law in New Orleans after the hurricane hit. They confiscated everyones firearms. They don't really give a flying rats arse if something is a law or not if they're determined. The same thing with "enemy combatants."
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