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Give out guns to everyone and pretend movies like "High Noon" are reality. After all, good guys with guns always beat bad guys with guns, everyone always has their gun with them, bad guys always clearly announce their attentions before attacking, and no bystanders ever get hurt by the bullets fired from good guy's guns. That's the alternate reality in which right-wingers live regarding gun control.
The truth is they have no solution. I've talked with plenty of right-wingers over the years, and it always boils down to a few things:
- "I need a gun to kill the bad guys." Sounds nice on paper, but that's often not how things work out in reality; again, "High Noon" was a work of fiction. And even if we take their claims of *needing* a gun to kill the mysterious "bad guys" that they fear are around every corner, that still doesn't justify a "need" for an assault weapon or a "need" to allow gun sales to terrorists, or a need for no weapon registration. I'm actually fine with home defense guns being no harder than a car to obtain: revolvers, shotguns, etc. But, again, nobody outside the military "needs" an AR-15 or some other weapon designed to simply kill huge numbers of people in seconds.
- "I need a gun to overthrown the government / kill NATO stormtroopers / kill the Muslims next door who must be part of ISIS because they are Muslim." Pure fantasy and ignorance.
- "Because the 2nd Amendment says so!" Right, and it also says WELL REGULATED militia. Funny how that part always gets ignored by right-wingers.
Long story short, right-wing gun nuts don't care. They live in terror, surrounded by guns, and don't care how many innocents have to die so long as they can keep their arsenals and replaying patriot murder fantasies in their head. Not one of them can come up with a valid reason why any typical citizen "needs" a full-auto, military grade mass-murder weapon, why gun ownership shouldn't require registration (we register CARS, for pity's sake!), or why various loopholes in sales shouldn't be closed.
More than just bashing every liberal idea, I'm legitimately curious what the conservative solution is. Please enlighten me.
Stop pushing gun control past the point of diminishing return.
Now on to 'mass shootings' which are few and far between unless you consider the daily death toll in our cities by gangs defending drug sales territory. Now that is a 'mass shooting' when you consider the predicitable pile of bodies it produces.
Gun laws exempt the people doing most of the killing and solution points to manipulation of areas with the greatest imapct. Those areas not so easy to amend.
It is because of the difficulty to resolve the constant slaughter of innocents and gang members that politicians with no answer turn to gun control.
Elimination of gang violence and career criminals doing what they do would drop the murder rate to hardly mentionable stats.
Orlando wasn't a mass shooting, it was a terror attack allowed by current social justice shackles that bind our intelligence agencies. When reporters find out more details than the FBI something is wrong. When Russia calls to warn us about a particular guy and the collective federal agencies clear him and then we have boston bombings, something is dramatically wrong at the federal level. See something say soemthing becomes a joke when Russia, a country wth some gravitas, calls and is ignored, good luck seeing something and saying something.
Prison reform is part of the problem. Prisons have become the universities of higher criminal education and recruiting grounds for fundamental islam, currently known as radiacal islam and gangs. That has to stop!
Cultural change has to be made to re-establish the family unit. Another reason pols rely on gun control legislation, too complex and in violation of current social justice rules. A third rail of politics.
The aclu is against a no fly list as it exists.
The FBI's watch list has been a media prop implying some prospective perp is being watched 24/7 by a government agent. Instead the watch list is at the bottom of the kitchen junk drawer.
Maine for example allows concealed carry w/o a permit, allows fully automatic weapons with a federal stamp, silencers and knives of any description......so where is the violence and mass shoottings taking place, Newark NJ with the strictest gun laws in the nation, detroit, chicago, etc. all dem controlled cities where gun control is the panacea to end violence.
Time to add gun safety course in our grammar schools. If you pretend to care about gun deaths you must advocate gun safety courses. If you believe fire safety, drivers ed, health courses, drug courses, cpr and child abduction prevention courses valuable why not gun safety courses?
More than just bashing every liberal idea, I'm legitimately curious what the conservative solution is. Please enlighten me.
Liberals want quick fixes, they want it, and they want it now....
You can't stop mass killings by outlawing guns....it is a slow process, that needs to develop over the years within society. It is the gang mentality, that has to be broken, society needs to change. Meaning, teaching good parenting skills, morals and how to respect others. Also, mental illness has to and needs to be checked, as it was years ago...institutions for the mentally ill. These people are walking around free...
Thats where it starts, within the projects, the drugs, the kids that are growing up with a gang member mentality...until that changes, nothing else will change. But, it takes time and a lot of hard work on the part of strict laws and moral education...taught, within schools, and foremost, at home.
As long as teens are having babies in poverty striken areas....kids will grow up in a state of crime. And it starts out small at first, and each crime becomes worse and worse.
Get rid of the drugs, the child mothers, poverty, and mentally ill....and it will subside slowly....
Nothing is 100% full proof, but when you recognize where the problem begins, that in itself is a start. Most Liberals do not have that ability any longer....they want quick fixes, and they want it all...and that kind of thinking also has to stop. Quick fixes are bandaides, which solves nothing.
Prohibition is a perfect example. Remember? All they did was create a lucrative business for the gangster, and that is all gun control will do. Period.
I just cannot believe society is so stupid and not only cannot learn from history, but actually believe gun control will work, and half wonder if liberal politicians are fighting for gun control for this very reason?
A stupid "solution" which isn't really any solution is usually worse than doing nothing. But at least they can claim they did something, right??
Yup, and that is exactly what they are doing....however, there is much more to it, me thinks.
They want to keep their jobs, and be re-elected....I've seen so many liberal mayors, turn their heads to their own police officers, and back the criminals instead of doing what is right. This whole country has gone corrupt.
More than just bashing every liberal idea, I'm legitimately curious what the conservative solution is. Please enlighten me.
We don't have to do anything. Far fewer people are killed by "mass shootings" than are killed by tornados. The rate of occurrence is too low to bother.
I'm more of a centrist libertarian but here are a few suggestions:
Go after the pharmaceutical companies if the shooter was on psychotropic medication or mind altering medications.
Start teaching morality and ethics in school again and get the family back and stop having it be under attack.
Push church membership again as a means of curing society's ills.
Go after the pharmaceutical companies if the shooter was on psychotropic medication or mind altering medications.
No, we should not do that.
Most people taking these medications have mental problems to start with. Some of these people will commit acts of violence.
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